Vidme or Why Big YouTubers Are Not Your Friends

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  • [ – ] AsKaGangsta reply I remember when i was a small creator starting out. All big channels just shit on you. That's why i am different. I can't help everybody but when i see a opportunity to help I'm right there to help. I don't see anybody as competition. I rather work with people together and grow together. Best thing in the world. I hate ignorant people who only care about themselves and basically telling everyone to fuck off. I want to help and motivate small creators . I will have a video out on this soon. It takes some time because it's a really important topic. I know what it takes to build a successful channel. And i don't want to keep this as a secret. The key to a successful channel is simple but it takes a lot of patience and hard work & dedication. A lot of small creators nowdays expect too much. There are no free handouts. You have to work your ass every single day!. No excuses.
    • MrATAndreiThomas parent reply This one of the reasons why I truly respect you more, big red gangster and I am willing to follow your footsteps, I'm going to help out the small content creators even more and next week.
    • GODKEVIN parent reply Im transitioning over to vidme from YouTube. So far I like it and it's great to see other creators willing to help out. That is something that doesn't exist on YT. Thumbs up 👍🏼
    • EmeraldMasterPixed parent reply And here I am on my ass, but still manage to maintain my patience and I like to work hard on things I enjoy to do.....so like Gangsta has said, there's no excuse. That includes me, that's why I HAVE NOT AND WILL NOT GIVE UP DAMMIT! And I mean that with love, everyone! We can cooperate, so let's help one-another! :D
    • JustCrewzinAround parent reply We're truly glad you're here @AsKaGangsta 👍
    • MysticSword parent reply Right on! I like your way of thinking. I also like to focus on the positive and be helpful & supportive of other content-Creators how I'm able to. It's really inspiring to see a big Creator like yourself to be so supportive of and standing-up for the smaller Creators here. Keep on being awesome! :) PS: You kinda remind me of "Ask a Ninja". He's awesome too and was one of my favorite YouTubers.
    • The_Scots_Tap parent reply What I'm seeing on YouTube is a culture where small to medium sized channels adopting a 0 shits given attitude where they lie and scam for subs and views and easily manipulated kids to make them revenue . It's shocking that YouTube just seems to turn a blind eye and now even porn is getting past the restricted mode which is disgusting . I've just joined Vidme but it's a breath of fresh air as apposed to constantly seeing fake iPhone 7 giveaways and omg I called the fidget spinner at 3am etc . I've been on YouTube since 2014 and I'm at the stage that I'm no longer believing the spin that they are improving he site FU YT you are a money grabbing pyramid scheme where you can't even enforce your own Terms or Conditions lol
    • VidmeFunDiy parent reply This is the way!
    • CracklingCrow parent reply I made a video showing the difference in views from youtube and vid.me and dailymotion
    • DragoNate parent reply I can't wait to see that because, while I mainly focus on YouTube, I do spend a bit of time here on Vidme. I mainly focus on YouTube because of live streaming and because that's where the community I've already started to build, mainly stays.
  • MarzieMalfoy reply You're absolutely right. If I decided that if I didn't like a new job after two weeks and just quit, I wouldn't be able to hold down any job. It takes approximately 90 days for our brains to completely get used to a new lifestyle and until that 90 days is up, it's going to be hard. But hard work is part of the deal. If you really want to be apart of something new, you need to be invested in it. And when I say invested, i don't mean money. I'm talking time, energy, and research.
  • [ – ] top10archives reply Even from a "bigger" channel perspective, having a VidMe account was one of our better ideas. Yeah, we don't quite make the $$ we do on YouTube, but we also have a better opportunity of "building" a community on VidMe than on YouTube, which is pretty damn important in the long run. VidMe is a great platform. If only because we've YET to see someone comment "FIRST!"
    • [ – ] soliloquy parent reply Honestly, having a large channel on YouTube and just re-uploading everything to vidme doesn't really encourage people to come to vid.me. It's the exclusive channels creating high quality content that are the people pulling weight
      • top10archives parent reply Well, we can agree to disagree on that, but we're also gearing up to create Vidme-only content. Just getting to that point.
  • [ – ] SamEarl13 reply Very good comparison and look at Vidme, I've definitely done far better on this site than YouTube even in views if you ignore 3 videos on my YouTube channel. I can definitely see how much the site has improved although sadly there'll always be people that won't actually bother trying. P.S. LittleKuriboh is over here now, he posted Episode 75 of YuGiOh Abridged here first which should help like what some of the other YouTubers have been doing.
    • [ – ] InternetUnwind parent reply I have been looking into that, I am not sure if it is real. I can't find his twitter or anything though to see if he mentioned vidme. I hope it's legit, but it seems a little odd to not link youtube or social media in your profile of any kind if you have been around like he has.
      • [ – ] SamEarl13 parent reply I asked his account on twitter which is @ yugiohtas and got a response confirming it: https://twitter.com/yugiohtas/status/875457446080159744 and the official teamfourstar site links to it too http://teamfourstar.com/ygotas-episode-75-valley-of-the-duels/
  • Watersurf reply I've been on youtube for a decade and haven't made a cent cause youtube disabled my monetization one my old channel (which got deleted for copyright issues) and my current channel (for "invalid click activity"). I've gotten up to 2k+ subscribers over there. Over here on vidme, I've been on the site for about 8 months (joined in October) and as of writing this comment, I have 73 followers. I've also made a dollar over here on vidme thanks to oldsparrow, who was my first donation ever in my 10 years of content creation. My upside with youtube is my views come in constantly since I have bigger views on some of my videos, especially my roblox related ones. Yeah that's nice but that's a small percentage of my actual videos. Though I haven't made any money (and most likely will never) on youtube, my views are always flowing in (even if they are small numbers). Here on vidme, more of my live action videos and even new videos are doing way better on the first week. The problem I have though is...more they die out within a day or two and views die out completely after the week's end. Yes, I know people tell me to upload way more and create daily content but I prefer taking the time to make my videos have originality and put the quality into my videos, which causes them to take days to even weeks to create. So I can't really crank out quality content, especially for free. My overall point is, vidme is great for small creators however, the vidme community needs some work. I just see rant videos or re-uploads from youtube on the front page more often then original content (which is what brought me in within the first place). I still prefer vidme as I upload my videos first over here and I even make exclusives for the site. Sure, it needs work but it's great. It's just I wish videos didn't die in the water after a few hours. Atleast over on youtube, my videos continue getting views months after it's original upload. I'm sure this could change over time but as of right now, I just find it hard to create original quality content over on vidme as it gets buried. I still got hope though cause I guess the first few hours matter.
  • [ – ] Roamancing reply Well said, and got me excited about what is to come here. I've been excited to introduce my storytelling students to this space, as many of them get daunted bs frustrated quite quickly on YouTube.
  • MrRogut reply In particular I feel better here in vidme than youtube, although here is not verified yet. Has been a hard job but I feel that I am on a comfortable and reliable platform, away from the bad vibe of youtube. My content is in Spanish but I'm growing.
  • [ – ] MarketStrategies reply Nice video Harrison. Youtube has really screwed themselves with the small time creator. Unlike Vidme, YouTube has forgotten their roots and instead gone for products like YouTube TV. Not realizing that people who watch YouTube don't like regular TV anyway. Vidme, through all its faults, has actually shown they cared. I've had two bad instances with uploads, and just hit Alex Benzer on twitter and they're fixed ASAP
    • JennyFedora parent reply Yeah, it was very apparent at the beginning of the year with the YouTube rewind when they were featuring big movie stars, musicians, and TV stars more than the talent who made YouTube what it is today.
  • whako reply On my time on Vidme I feel I have been able to be more creative and express the content I want without issue, unlike YouTube where now you have to watch what you post. Also the staff interaction with Vidme guarantees an easy fix with them unlike YouTube because the issues usually go against you from an automatic process. Finally, I feel that Vidme is a lot more fresh than YouTube it gives small creators a better chance to be able to expand and actually grow an audience. This is is why I prefer Vidme over YouTube any day, great video greatly enjoyed it!
  • [ – ] FranciscoJavier reply Where did you get that tshirt?
  • [ – ] InternetUnwind reply I like the features on youtube with the tagging and paying to promote your content among other things. Vidme I have had more issues getting views on my content here. I am here mostly because I enjoy interacting here almost as if it was a social media site. I will say I think some of the features that have been announced for vidme sound like great features but only if done right. Youtube is flooded, but as someone who has been on Vidme for a month hoping to get in before the masses. I have had a bit less luck than what I hear most have had. Great video dude!
    • [ – ] JennyFedora parent reply It'll take time. Something that can help starting out is posting the Vidme content on /r/Vidmeos on Reddit. You are already coming close to your number of subscribers on YouTube. It'll be a grind, but with proper promotion and consistently cross uploading from YouTube, you'll get there.
      • [ – ] InternetUnwind parent reply Oh that wasn't a complaint, I get the grind. I have been in the game for 4+ years now. My old channel has 540 subs but the channels history was holding it back. Too many content type shifts. https://www.youtube.com/user/idrive88fiero I started a new one to have a fresh start. Even unlisted almost 1000 videos on the old channel to have a set content type on it as a second channel.
        • [ – ] JennyFedora parent reply lol, not saying it was a complaint. In regards to content shifting holding a person back, yeah, that is something else that is horrible to manage on YouTube. Hence why we have two channels there. As we are still developing, and more of a variety channel, we're not impacted by shifts on Vidme like we would be on YouTube.
          • InternetUnwind parent reply Originally I looked at it like "markiplier and pewdiepie upload whatever they want. Why couldn't I?" Yeah people want consistency, that has become clear.
  • [ – ] Orginaljun reply Great comparison, youtube gives me nightmares ^^ brbrbr.
    • LadyK parent reply YouTube has too many trolls, naysayers, and so many judgmental people. I just went onto YouTube yesterday to read comments on any random videos. It's like walking into a Middle School cafeteria and hearing nothing but bitching about this and that. It's so depressing and turned me off. It's like so many people have a lot of time on their hands to bitch and moan. From what I see too, YouTube is making more money off of the more famous Youtubers. It's all about the money and not about the little content creators. I like Vidme a lot. I will like them even more once I get verified because I have so much creativity. But I'm limited to how much I can upload. Yeah, I'm never gong back to YouTube.
    • AxxL_Afriku parent reply my face would give you worse nightmares
  • [ – ] skpacman reply Some interesting stats there. I, on the other hand, do not make any money directly from my video channels. My only income from my content is only my Patreon. I just hope we can continue to get the tools and improvements that the staff have been working on.
    • [ – ] JennyFedora parent reply Well, not yet, but it could happen with time. We've invested in Vidme instead of Patreon or Twitch. If Vidme fully fleshes out the subscriptions, it'll mean we will not have to manage another service like patreon.
      • skpacman parent reply That's my plan in the long run. I will eventually only have Vidme for fan funding, but until it has the features I want, I'm stuck managing multiple platforms.
  • [ – ] redRomina reply I briefly talked about revenue in one of my videos where I disclosed that I have made more off of Vidme in the past 6 months than I have off of youtube in the past 2 years. That's not to say that youtube is evil or bad, some people really don't care about the money. But I am trying to do this full time. And without the money, I cannot. I have bills to pay. Vidme has been allowing me to do this.
    • [ – ] JennyFedora parent reply Whoo, someone else doing better monetarily on Vidme. But there is the social proof on Vidme also for creators who do not make money. The ability to get views, likes, and comments on Vidme is usually better as compared to YouTube.
      • redRomina parent reply For me, it has been relatively the same on that front BUT I have found that the comments on Vidme are much more insightful and thought out than the ones on YouTube.
  • [ – ] BuzWeaver reply Long time YouTuber adopting VidMe as an additional platform. I came across you guys on a post in the YouTube Community Forums.
    • [ – ] JennyFedora parent reply That's amazing! You happen to have a link to the post? We're curious now.
      • [ – ] BuzWeaver parent reply Yes: https://www.youtube-creatorcommunity.com/t5/General-Discussions/YouTube-should-take-a-look-at-VIDME/m-p/227216#M38800
        • [ – ] JennyFedora parent reply ROFL, Posted right on the YouTube Community forums! That's amazing!
          • BuzWeaver parent reply I've reached out to a few fellow creators that I know in RL and in the Youtube community. Common Man Cocktail joined. He's rock'en 84k subs on YouTube. I'll also reach out to some bigger channels, these are people I met at the YouTube Creator Day last years. One of them has 85k and other is nearly at 400k.
  • [ – ] roshugaming reply great video man a lot of good info and it s very difficult to grow on youtube been there for about 3 year with the channel I have now and have not even hit 600 yet but started here yeah not growing drastically (doing gaming vids and all just hard to grow period lol but got to do what you enjoy) but hell the community here is so much better and a lot more helpful it is great here to grow and enjoy what you do and make some true friends.
    • roshugaming parent reply Also one day it will be a career (wont call a job t are what you get cuz you have to not that you want to)
  • [ – ] FoldableHuman reply Hi Harrison, Dan here. I just wanted to highlight how a sizeable portion of my video was aimed at newer content creators, specifically addressing the fact that they are vulnerable to being easily wooed into exploitative relationships by the promise of a few dollars.
    • [ – ] JennyFedora parent reply Hey Dan, I fully understand that a major portion of your video was talking about content platforms with using YouTube, the fine brothers debacle, dailymotion, blip.tv and the maker buyout as examples. All platforms have some sort of hostility towards content creators. You were fairly measured and even on your talk in this regard and this is good warning for anyone who wants to be a new content creator. Most experienced creators learn this over time. However, the video was started with explaining how you were mocking Vidme in a tweet thread (and there was a followup mocking after the video on twitter and in your YouTube comments). You go onto explain how the site presentation is not very good (fair enough). How the toxic people and the dregs are the first who are moving over to Vidme first (questionable but understandable). Criticism and examples are tied directly back to Vidme throughout the video and it all puts a negative light on Vidme as this is sprinkled through out the vide...moreo. There needed to be a counterpoint showing something positive to all of this explaining why being an early adopter and taking a risk with Vidme can be beneficial for creators. I am surprised to see that you chose to make an account and comment over here on Vidme instead of YouTube where I published the exact same video three hours earlier than this one. I guess 12 views and zero comments is not a good place to reply when there is the same video on Vidme with 1,400 views, 44 comments and 100 upvotes.
      • [ – ] FoldableHuman parent reply I made the account in prep for the video, I wanted to get a sense of the backend, the monetization systems, upload structure, generally have a good idea of what VidMe is offering in terms of channel infrastructure. The fact that my opinion of VidMe was ultimately rather negative is a direct result of finding little good once I was past the gate. As far as replying here rather than YouTube, this is simply where I first saw it. Nothing weird or strategic at all. I didn't even know (or consider) that it was duplicated on YouTube until you mentioned it here. I understand where you're coming from, but most of what you're praising as the benefits of VidMe are direct consequences of a less competitive attention economy rather than anything intrinsic to VidMe as a platform. As a platform, as an actual product, VidMe kinda sucks, especially from a channel owner's perspective. The lack of a centralized comment moderation system, the poor video management system, tons of UI problems, a shady pa...moreyout system that requires you to manually cash out by emailing them and asking for your money followed by them arranging a personal PayPal transfer, and the list goes on. This all puts a critical hole in the "early adopter" narrative (itself a bit of corporate spin that companies use to convince you that they're you're friend) because being an early adopter of a platform is ultimately gambling on the future success of that platform to gain the early starter advantage. This, in turn, is why the criticism of mid to large channel operators is critical, because VidMe (or any other platform) simply isn't going to magically, or inevitably, grow. VidMe hasn't managed to actually attract any dedicated talent, and it won't because it has nothing to offer them. Most of the people you listed as bigger channels "coming to VidMe" are simply using it as a secondary dumping ground because there's literally zero cost to doing so. While you need to bust ass to get views, Channel Awesome just dumps their existing content onto VidMe as a backup and to passively reap whatever money happens to come in (which is barely any, if you actually look at it: their Suicide Squad video has made a whopping $6 in tips off almost 60,000 views.) Thoughty2, the biggest channel you highlighted with 2.1m subs on YouTube, has a paltry 1800 followers here on VidMe and most of his VidMe uploads have less than 1000 views. Arran's latest video, about the Doomsday Device, has 222 thousand views on YouTube and twelve, not twelve thousand, *twelve* views here on VidMe, and his highest tipped video is $10. Basically what I'm trying to convey to you is that VidMe is not healthy, and they are not positioned to grow. There is a very good chance that they have already effectively plateaued, and that "early adopter risk" will fail to pay off. And here's the thing: from the inside, as a core user invested in the emotional experience of the platform, you're going to think it's fine, you'll think they're growing because you're growing relative to your own expectations, and then the next day they'll announce they're out of money and they're shutting down, thank you very much. If you're lucky they'll pay you before they go.
        • JennyFedora parent reply In regards to criticism from a channel owner's perspective, I do agree with that mostly. The management system for content creators does need work. We've walked about some of the downsides with the Vidme staff in this aspect. We know that the current system needs to be more robust for larger channels that work with a team. There is no way to assign staff to the account to assist right now for example and we've expressed that some of these features are going to become critical moving forward to get larger creators to adopt the platform. We have been critical of where the system should be improved publicly and privately. For the small creator though, the system is simple and works. Solo creators who are just starting out do not mind how the commenting system works. The payout system is still in development with more automation coming in the next couple of months. For mid to large channel operators, your criticism is good about some of the technical aspects of Vidme. Having work...moreed in Information Technology and Computer Network Security for the past 20 years, I've had to constantly look at products and platforms. Early adopting is part of the test cycle sometimes. Sometimes it goes bust and other times it works out. Since most content creators are really independent contractors of the platforms they are on, they have to looks at the benefit for themselves. For you, it is valid that the downsides outweigh the benefits. For someone small, the benefits are more likely to out weigh the downsides. When starting out, the social proof is currently better on Vidme. Creators who are small are able to get more help from the community and comments to improve their content. Upvotes and views are also better when starting out. Assistance from the Vidme staff via e-mail is better than YouTube if running into a technical problem. For anyone looking to venture down the path of being a content creator, even as a hobby, the benefits in the social proof, outweigh the disadvantages on Vidme. Since we do not put all our eggs in one basket, and no creator should, we will not be affected to dramatically if Vidme, for some reason, shuts down tomorrow. There is a portion of the community and followers who will move to another platform that we are on if they are forced to. I do not see this happening at this time, but right now, YouTube is even more unhealthy for small creators who are starting out as they start to shift towards focusing on corporations, traditional media, and music industry stars. No corporation is ever your friend, but Vidme as a company has still provided better support for their customers who are independent contractors. They have some work to still hit the 20/80 rule in regards to features, but they have been improving those features over time. Are they positioned to grow, yeah they are, it is just a matter if they will take full advantage of the current market and weaknesses in the competition.
  • [ – ] WinkyDink reply Aw, I didn't make the list of YouTuber early adopters :/ I love you Vidme! I see the value of this platform, and I know it's going to just keep growing!
    • [ – ] JennyFedora parent reply My apologies for missing you! Your content has to have been hit the hardest by the adpocalypse on YouTube.
      • WinkyDink parent reply It's all good. There's no way you could catch us all. Yeah, I was hit pretty hard. Taking it all in stride though :)
  • XGuyy reply As someone who was a youtuber for 6 yrs , the growth here for me has been faster and I'll be passing my old channel in a month at this rate . Loving vidme
  • SpeedyGaming reply Hahaha! In all seriousness though, these smaller creators just didn't even give vidme a chance when they were going through all of this. They didn't know it wasn't H3H3 that came through they don't always keep track of the spam that comes through this website and breaks their algorithm they are a small staff. They just can't keep up with those sorts of things. So I gave them a pass, Why? Because they are still the only alternative that I have at the moment because they are the only ones that are giving small content creators like me the exposure that I deserve. So I am glad that you are bringing it back to reality. @JennyFedora
  • [ – ] theoldsparrow reply It's going to be a different ballgame when ads start on vidme.
  • Aiya reply YEAAA Love this video. People have high standards and expectations for Vidme to be like YT, but it's unrealistic. Vidme still has potential to grow. There are things that you cannot see from checking this platform for 10 min. You have to test the water to feel the difference. Well said Harrison.
  • [ – ] billmarion reply Would you mind if I make a video with some counter arguments and used some of your video in my video? Just a friendly discussion. No drama or anything hateful. Thank you for your consideration. Bill
    • [ – ] JennyFedora parent reply Anytime! You're on of the creators on here that I go and watch when I have a chance. I would be glad to let you use our footage to agree or counterpoint us anytime. I honestly wanted to say more here because there was so much that could of been covered. I was trying to not have a 30 minute video.
      • [ – ] billmarion parent reply Speaking of 30 minutes videos lol, I made my mind up the last time YouTube changed the game, that I'm making content, and eventually, it's going to make money somehow, someway. So make them an hour long if you need to! My counterpoints aren't exactly counter points in such a way that I'm debating or anything. It's more like a "we need to think of ourselves as contractors, and place our content on a variety of available media driven platforms." I like Vidme a lot. I really do. I like YouTube. But I don't work for either of them. I work for me. So loyalty? Well, YouTube doesn't seem too loyal, and as friendly as Vidme is to me and everyone else, it's business. But the best reason to offer a counter point is that it seems to play well here on vidme. Not arguing, but an open discussion. Your channel is great, and that goes without saying. But just keeping conversation going seems to push numbers up if that makes any sense. Regardless, thanks for allowing me to jump. Thanks for letti...moreng me do some screen shots when I get to that point in the process. It'll take me a few days. I have two videos to make before I can get to that one. But I'm excited about it. I'm also going to grab some stats and see where Vidme is at in growth. And talk about other video content platforms. It should be a lot of fun, and hopefully the information will spark some creativity for everyone!
        • JennyFedora parent reply Sometimes you have to cater to your audience with the size of your videos. The younger generation tunes out faster now a days. Sometime you have to make the video shorter when making a point. Still can't wait to see what you have to say. I totally agree that we are all independent contractors who need to look after our own interest in regards to platforms. Can't wait to see you talk about that aspect is forgotten a lot of times as a content creator.
  • MWproductions1000 reply Agree with you 100%!
  • [ – ] mediaglitch reply I agree with every thing you say. That being said my numbers are very low here on Vidme and almost no one finds my videos and as the channel grows I feel like my videos are going to get even more lost in the mix.
    • JennyFedora parent reply I totally agree with your perspective too. Since we have been working with you all for game reviews, I'm going to have to sit down and invest more time in promoting you on Vidme.
  • mediaglitch reply great video man
  • [ – ] Guy_In_Car_Radio reply They are upset because it challenges the norm. The community here is much less toxic. I actually enjoy commenting and posting without worry of fanboy haters coming on and arguing about topics with no logic used. We can discuss and not argue here. Great content and good luck in the future.
    • JennyFedora parent reply Yeah, that is one of the upsides. We still have videos here that get no comments, but still better than YouTube where we are lucky to get a comment on any video in a week.
  • [ – ] Contraband_Res reply As a small creator, I like Vidme a lot. I stopped making videos for weeks, but I was still able to get new followers during that time and when I did upload videos recently, there are still people able to find my work! Also, the url here is "1dic".
  • EplxProductions reply I've been here about a month and I have gained 14 follows as for youtube for when i started this vidme...I have 0. so i like vidme more
  • RewindThatGaming reply Your right, First time I acctually look at Vid.me and learn how to promote. I actually like this website and I dont understand why youtubers get mad at vid.me. Thanks reading this comment...
  • Anonymous_Gamer reply Hey kitty kitty! Great info thanks. Always enjoy your take on things.
  • bononoz1 reply I think that on YouTube, I was definitely failing, meanwhile, on vid.me, I'm actually growing! (Slowly but surely) I think that this was the best move for my channel and now I actually have fun making videos rather than just churning them out week after week.
  • SaltyStan reply I'm new on vidme and I can tell that it's a way better community than YouTube , you're absolutely right when u said if you don't have alot of subscribes and experience some issues and you contact YouTube you might not get an answer asap as oppose if you had 1000s of subs . I hope to grow here and hopefully you guys enjoy what I have to offer . God Bless
  • [ – ] lambdog76 reply Did you watch Folding Ideas video?
      • [ – ] lambdog76 parent reply Reason I asked, was I watched yours first, as you've countered with alternative points. I see elseware in the comments that your goal was to counter with positive benefits. I would be interested to see a direct point by point answer to the criticisms from @FoldableHuman by someone in the know.
        • JennyFedora parent reply I could, but it would almost be a week before I could get to that video. By then it would have died down (hopefully). My perspective is different with alternative points while being positive. I have also done my fair share of negative criticism for Vidme staff on certain issues.
  • Lkbill50 reply Too Awesome...I'm spreading your links....so tired of being Censored
  • [ – ] WalkingForWeightLoss reply Hi JennyFedora. Nice to meet you on Vidme. Regarding this video, if Vidme does enable tier levels similar to Patreon that would be great. I'd rather have an all-in-one venue rather than having to create multiple accounts at different sites. I'll never understand people who cling to YouTube. Thier CEO should have been fired after the #wtfu controversy.
    • [ – ] JennyFedora parent reply There is a reason to use YouTube, but I think starting out now, this is the place to build an audience. YouTube is still a search engine for videos at heart. If you take the time to understand SEO, your stuff will start to be seen over time when people do Google searches.
      • [ – ] WalkingForWeightLoss parent reply Thanks. What is there to understand about SEO? Is it anything more than a matter of tagging one's videos and writing good video descriptions? Considering YT's preference of big Hollywood vids and controversies like AdPocolypse and #wtfu I would not recommend it to another creator. Since I live in L.A. I can easily make more money doing focus groups and background / extra work than spinning my wheels on YT. If a creator wants to make political content and/or engage in legit fair use, YT seems especially uphill. I would not be surprised if YT engages in payola and blacklisting.
        • [ – ] top10archives parent reply New creators definitely should avoid starting out on YouTube. Outside of the issues you brought up, it's become incredibly saturated in just about every market, and doing something "unique" is becoming more of an impossibility than just the chore that it was. As for SEO, that's pretty much it. Just knowing what keywords relating to your content are heavily searched, but YouTube also factors in quite a bit more. For instance, they're none-too-pleased if you link outside of YouTube in your description.
          • [ – ] WalkingForWeightLoss parent reply Well damn. I love including links in my descriptions since I like citing my sources and their weak defense of fair use creators always made me afraid to use screen shots of things I referenced.
            • [ – ] top10archives parent reply Yeah :/ You just have to be super careful. If you use another YouTube channel's content, use it sparingly and cite the source on screen.
  • Common-Tater_follows_back reply also dont want to plug another site, but liveleak is a good way to get alot of views quickly i found, i got a few thousand views the first night i posted as opposed to like 15 on here with multiple videos, i've been on youtube about 2-3 weeks and im at about 47 subs, also the first few i made were not obviously that great quality but i just started doing this as a hobby but the only downside of vidme to a beginner is the upload cap, cant really upload as many as you would like, so hopefully that changes soon..
  • Out_and_about_Bushcraft reply I may as well forget youtube, due to the nature of my channel. It's not AD friendly, I went from views in the 30's on youtube to 7 overnight. I do far better on Vidme.
  • [ – ] MisterHan2000 reply Very well said. Never underestimate the little folks. You never know just how far they'll go.
  • [ – ] KayToons reply Another good thing about Vidme is the close community everyone has. It feels like a small town here, everyone knows one another and neighbors are your good friends.
  • [ – ] Kingsabre reply I like how all the comments are nice unlike youtube
    • [ – ] top10archives parent reply <3 This is one of the main reasons we started uploading here. To reach actual humans with the capacity for leaving real comments.
  • techmespot reply Nice video buddy !!!
  • [ – ] CJwoodruff reply Appreciate this video man, im really dedicating myself to this platform. Would love to collaborate
  • redRomina reply You've brought up some really great points. It's really unfortunate that people are so small minded. I love YouTube and I love Vidme. They are both platforms for me to express myself creatively, connect with other creators, and engage with people who are interested in the same things I am.
  • [ – ] Lawborn reply Community is so important and youtube just doesn't have that anymore.
    • JennyFedora parent reply Communities are centered around creators now on YouTube. People are not as likely to step out of their comfort zone to look for new things on YouTube anymore.
  • [ – ] Dazzlinglatte reply Somebody crapped in the pool?!? Not again!! I just cleaned my flip flops. 😂 But seriously, I enjoyed this video. You're a cool dude.
  • Samuel7217 reply Appreciate the advice. I am certainly a new creator here and this information is helpful.
  • [ – ] Englishman-in-Malta reply very interesting, i just started vime, so far its a bit hard i am only allowed to up load a few vids ...
    • JennyFedora parent reply Depending on the size of the Video, when you are unverified uploading straight to vidme it can be difficult. Honestly, I would suggest using YouTube as a tool and uploading their first, unlisted or public even. YouTube video compression is still one of the best. You can click on the "upload" button on Vidme and then paste the link in the "Paste a Video or GIF link (URL)." This can work as a work around for the upload cap while unverified.
  • [ – ] A4EProject reply I'm new to the platform and just at first pass, I'd have to say that the comment sections, in general, are a lot healthier. In terms of Vidme versus Youtube, in my naivete as a fledgling content creator, I don't see why I should choose. Do both, as it's cost nothing. Sure you can't do every platform going, but you can pick a small handful of sites which are the best fit for your needs. Using multiple platforms gets content out to more people and does help to mitigate risk should one platform fail or do an about face on its policies etc.
    • [ – ] JennyFedora parent reply Oh, we're not saying pick one over the other. We're on YouTube also. For exposure and feedback purposes, Vidme does feel like the better place. Also, posting to YouTube first means you can pull across to Vidme with an already compressed Video. The upload via URL feature has improved so it also pulls across the title, description, and Thumbnail (most of the time).
      • A4EProject parent reply Hey, @JennyFedora thank you for the pull across tip! Just to clarify, I didn't interpret your message as one or the other. I guess I'm responding to all your positive points about Vidme by throwing in my (additional) sentiment which is: "Why not? It's free."
  • [ – ] sowhat_vid_me reply Youtube disappointed and betrayed me. They gave me 3 strikes within less than half a day. These pricks banned my whole channel. I just hope that vidme does not do that. And the so-called "youtube heroes" cann all go xxxx themselves. Some SJW idiots who never even made a single video can take whole channels down. xxxx them. I just had 2800 videos and only a bit more than 1000 subscribers. All gone now. xxxx youtube.
    • [ – ] Sharpwing parent reply Those pesky Germans talking about real world issues in Germany. Am I right man?
      • [ – ] sowhat_vid_me parent reply Yes. It is all about alleged "hate speech". The German justice minister wants to sue social media 50 million Euros for every alleged "hate speech" comment anybody makes. It is censorship 101, Orwellian-style censorship. It is all about silencing critical voices.
        • [ – ] Sharpwing parent reply Well I'm a steretypical American who was tought to live eat and breathe freedom from our polluted air and I agree with that fully brother. That's more censorship than an SJW group who make sure an entire side of the argument is blocked from social media.
          • [ – ] sowhat_vid_me parent reply Yes. What they (youtube, twitter, facebook, etc) are doing is against the freedom of speech. The freedom of speech ia a basic human right. They censor people like Milo and others, but they allow jihadi supporters to spread their anti-western hatred. That is despicable.
            • [ – ] Sharpwing parent reply I would choose someone that said nothing but racial slurs all day long and had interesting points over giving the platform to people who either want to watch me die or kill me. That's called assessing the lesser of 2 evils.
              • [ – ] sowhat_vid_me parent reply I agree. And the sad thing is that most of the people who pretend to support a certain ideology would be the first to suffer from that ideology. LGBTQ people who support Shariah Law. That is the level of brainwashing that the indoctrination of the educational systems has managed to create. I will link a video of a youtuber who is a nice person. He is on vidme as well now. The video is short and shows a leftist loonie flipping out after Trump won the Presidency xD. The channel name is "THE GRIM RABBIT" https://youtu.be/zREjSMjqm5A https://vid.me/THE-GRIM-RABBIT
                • [ – ] Sharpwing parent reply Yeah I'll be the first to agree that our current president isn't much better. Same bullshit, but a different side with different bullshit arguments that morons will willingly justify.
                  • sowhat_vid_me parent reply I am not sure yet. I hope Trump is different. I agree with most of the things he has done. Apart from the strike in Syria and the Saudi weapons deal, I have hardly any criticism.
  • [ – ] Sharpwing reply I watched Eli's video and I do have to say, if there really was someone who tried to blow off the meeting with him, didn't listen to anything he had to say and really tried to hard sell him on this site after he had said no so many times, that is unacceptable. Now I don't know the full story but I know this fact. I don't want someone who brow beats other creators to join this site to represent me at all. If we're desperate for traffic than we just need to look appealing to people. @AsKaGangsta You made us look pretty bad to this guy with your previous stunt, and the comments on that previous vid didn't help none, but I'll forgive you since you did do a heartfelt apology. I'm not gonna presume that I'm better than everyone else, because I'm not. I felt the salt come down from a big guy like Eli as well, but now I realize that we just gave him more ammo to fire back with and man do I feel stupid. Also, Vidme staff does need to cool it with the post removals unless the people in these pos...morets are truly saying some vile shit. Hey @duffy whoever's doing this kind of stuff, you aren't free of criticism. It may not be cool, but that's the way the world is. If you don't learn to role with the punches you'll be swallowed whole. That's life man.
    • [ – ] JennyFedora parent reply Oh, we've given Vidme staff criticism publicly and privately. The post removals are over on Reddit and not on Vidme itself. The rules over there are different and it did fall within violation of the subreddit rules. The Vidme staff does have a "Feedback Friday" thread there every week for all suggestions and criticism. They just advise that people "don't be a dick" on reddit such as saying "The staff should be fired."
      • Sharpwing parent reply So the remove the reddit posts more because they have to and not because they want to. It's bad but I do have a three strikes philosophy. I think that if people are brow beating, then they need to stop. If they don't then some action needs to be taken. All I know is that I won't have such things to drag me and my peers down represent us.
  • [ – ] AdamMadMan reply As someone just starting out, I am pretty grateful for a video like this. I've been uploading simultaneously to both YouTube and Vidme, and while I've barely made a blip on either site, I feel like this has more potential to get me better known, especially with all this recent shit with YouTube. Also, I guess it's a good thing I've never heard of either of the mentioned creators here.
    • JennyFedora parent reply YouTube is an ocean, and every once in a while an object floats up from the bottom that everyone points out. Keep posting to both sites, and make sure to leverage social media platforms to gain exposure starting out.
  • HazysDay reply OH DAMN THAT T SHIRT IS AWESOME !
  • [ – ] HeroHei reply This video is honestly very biased. You're comparing your specific situation and generalizing it as a statement about YouTube vs. Vidme in general which is really flawed. I have to be honest, I think it's wrong to try and steer small creators away from YouTube. Vidme is awesome but YouTube really does make it as user friendly as possible for smaller creators. If you spend a little bit of time researching the YouTube algo. and how to make a good thumbnail, all that jazz, and at least try to be different and stand out, a small and new channel on YouTube can blow up with insane speed. I've seen it happen many times.
    • BossPander parent reply The video is more in response to a certain video put out by a specific YouTuber who was extremely rude, and biased towards creators on Vidme.
  • [ – ] JustCrewzinAround reply Spot on! This really brings out Vidme as a Video sharing platform Thank you for making this video.
  • [ – ] ohmightyvlog reply GREAT rundown seriously.
  • MrATAndreiThomas reply I'm going to talk about this next week Monday why I despise big youtubers who are ignorant and egotistical that don't give two shits about the smaller content creators but themselves, but like I said, I will not end up like those Big Egotistical youtube content creators, I will follow the same footsteps as @askagangsta.
  • [ – ] TekNoob reply how are new creators supposed to be seen on vidme? because if you're not Verified, Vidme hides your videos makeing it hard to build a audience from scratch
    • [ – ] JennyFedora parent reply This is a problem even on YouTube. You can be seen by commenting on people's videos and being engaging. You can share on social media platforms. You can put hashtags in your video descriptions to make them come up in the search results. It takes work on any platform starting out, Vidme is no exception.
      • [ – ] TekNoob parent reply If i make a new account on yt and post a video it can still be in trending, the video can show up next other creators videos and claim top spots for search ranking i'm not saying it's easy but it's possible. With a new account on vidme no matter what i do even if the video gets 100k views it will only show up in "new" for a hour or so without my account being "Verified"
        • [ – ] JennyFedora parent reply Actually no, that is most likely not going to happen. YouTube suppresses new creators from trending now who are not monetized. Your video can show up next to other people's videos with keywords at times, just like it can on here if you use hashtags in the description. If you had a video that was original and getting 100k views on Vidme, here is a high probability it would get team picked and seen even if you are not "Verified"
          • TekNoob parent reply "most likely not going to happen." but it's possible like this person first video it's in trending proof that a new account can be in yt trending https://i.imgur.com/q7ERyZs.png =]
    • GrimlockThe18 parent reply i'm doing fine (sorry if I sound egotistical)
  • Epica reply Really like vidme for helping small creators.
  • [ – ] MrATAndreiThomas reply Of course big youtubers are not our friends and I'm not friends with them because they are a bunch of fucking pathetic money hungry egotistical assholes that have too much fame in their fucking thick skulls and most of them don't give two shits about the fucking smeller content creators and I'm like fuck them, they are all useless fools at least in my eyes, the big youtuber who I truly really Respect more is @askagangsta because he respects the community even more and I am willing to follow his foot steps and help out the small content creators and I will continue to do so if my vidme channel gets bigger in the future, I will not end up like those Big Egotistical youtubers in the future and that's a promise, I'm a man of my word.
    • [ – ] Kentantino parent reply Then you are friend with a big youtuber lol because if you like askagasta that means that you like a youtuber lol there's no reason to hate yt people let them be bruh they will bring us what we need now like you say follow those footsteps and help other to grow.
  • RhetoricalEntertainment reply It's more accurate to say that you've generated $40 on YouTube since they don't pay out until your balance is at $100.
  • DeCapitoFamily reply keep it up! subbed, I'll be watching you guys, good luck!
  • KellyB reply This video really helped me understand the bigger picture of things. Thanks man, good video
  • ProjectKillJoy reply VidMe has grown into something special. People who think that they can come over and give there 3 minute analysis never wanted to be part of the platform to begin with.
  • LeinadWorks reply So true, VidMe is way better with monetization on videos than Youtube is.
  • insaneonthemembrane reply Good luck I've just subscribed $2 a month.
  • [ – ] insaneonthemembrane reply At present I will happily donate $2 a month just to help you out as I have on other creative channels. The reason I'm asking is it a 12 month binding contract in case mine income changes. Please answer.
    • JennyFedora parent reply The subscription is not a 12 month binding contract. It is billed month by month with auto-renew. It works similar to Patreon in this regard.
  • insaneonthemembrane reply Excellently explained.
  • Mattwo reply You spent most of this video talking about about issues regarding monetization and views... That's not really their main problem with the site. It doesn't matter if this site is functionally better than YouTube if the people running the site keep acting like they don't care about us. I was on this site for only two months before they decided to shaft me by not only rejecting my verification but also refusing to say why. Then I decided to keep an eye on the site and saw the hell that it really was, it became clear enough to me that while the staff can build and maintain a website, they know jack about properly building and running a creator-driven social media platform.
  • Englishman-in-Malta reply Think they need to speed up the verified accounts ...can't see why you are only allowed to upload only a few videos,, OK, I understand the thing about Monetization. .but if they wanna grow they need more videos and creators
  • Paff101 reply How do you tell how many subs a creator has?
  • VidmeFunDiy reply I hope it very much!
  • Daquan reply Yall check my posts
  • DoujinASMR reply I cross upload. Youtube has way more traffic, but vid.me is pretty cool.
  • OleCrankyGamer reply I wish I could get 50 followers to get verified, when that happens this platform would be perfect for me...4 videos a week is what I do on Youtube, but I cannot get noticed I like to rant about gaming news and do let's plays of older games, and any money I make goes to well researched charities
  • Wendiz reply So your funded..
  • CaptainFrugal reply Great video, I agree 100 percent. YouTube screwed me over and I have never been able to talk to a person, I get automated responses that show they don't even read my messages to them. Vidme has been a great platform for me,
  • Furiousredheads reply what do you guys/girls think about posting fresh rock music on vidme? do you people believe its good to promote music here? im very motivated and me and my band train every day, we only make music for 4-5 months, i had as a singer no experience, but we keep growing, rolling with a snowball effect. i believe it would be cool one day if my band becomes big and fans could listen the first and old recordings of our band here.
  • HeWhoLaughsLast reply Yeah on youtube. Everything just gets lost now, anything they care about is just people that is really big and give no fucks about the smaller community :/
  • sieggaming reply I really want to get to know people on Vid.Me :) Please if you are new, Follow me :)
  • sieggaming reply Vid.Me is the best!!! Just need more followers!
  • ArmedForcesGlobal reply Nice video. Thanks for this.
  • FaTaLViru5 reply It's simple, big yotubers aren't our friends becasue they socialize with only other big you tubers because it makes them look more popular and they think they are took good for smaller youtubers
  • BigBootyBeaches reply Meow meow meow meow! Meow meow? Ya know?
  • [ – ] iJimUK reply I agree 100% with everything you said here. One thing people need to remember, especially over on YouTube is that @vidme is still relatively new and still growing and finding its feet. Yes there are going to be mistakes made, just like YouTube did in its first couple of years. But Vidme, to me has one thing YouTube never had and never will. A voice, a bridge or connection between Vidme it's self and the people who create content on Vidme, we have a communication something you only get when you are a mega big YouTuber. I noticed this within the first few days here. Like @AskaGangsta said, we help each other here, Vidme is (at the time of writing this) a place where creators don't view each other as competition but as friends. I personally don't want to be like the big YouTubers if I ever get "Vidme famous" I would rather be like the big red gangsta and remember where I came from and how hard it is
    • JennyFedora parent reply We're hoping to do the same. We've already been trying to build a network with creators on a local level in New Mexico.
  • rhebok reply That vidme robot shirt is dope
  • [ – ] AxxL_Afriku reply i dont have any friends anyways because i am ugly
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