Criminalizing protests is a REAL violation of free speech

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  • [ – ] Sidistic_Igtheist reply I totally agree with what Oral says, "at least 19 states have introduced measures that would criminalize peaceful protest. In places such as Minnesota, Michigan and Iowa, Republican lawmakers have proposed laws that would stiffen penalties for demonstrators who block traffic." Blocking traffic is NOT peaceful protest... If people aren't listening to what you have to say,when actually protesting peacefully. Forcing them to listen , isn't really going to change their minds, is it? They're not standing infront of a tank in Tiananmen Square.. however, I seriously think they're equating their actions as being so.
    • [ – ] OralRobots parent reply The left has developed this bizarre narcissistic belief that their freedom of speech is somehow being curtailed if other people decline to listen to them while they're speaking. It's plain and simple attention whoredom caused by social media providing a worldwide soapbox to every blithering idiot with an Internet connection.
      • [ – ] Kizzume parent reply And I think it's strange when people (usually on the right, but sometimes center) say their freedom of speech is being violated because a video was demonetized on YouTube.
        • OralRobots parent reply While not a violation of freedom of speech per se, it's certainly discrimination to demonetize certain people's videos because of their political views while not doing the same to people who hold different political views. Depending on whether or not YouTube is legally considered to be a common carrier, there may be cause for a discrimination lawsuit there. If not, then, as the owner of the website, YouTube is free to do whatever they want. People who are financially harmed by YouTube's actions are free to go to another site and/or use a monetization scheme such as Patreon that isn't at the mercy of YouTube's political bias - which many are doing.
    • Kizzume parent reply I disagree that blocking traffic isn't a peaceful protest. It's not violent. It's certainly not a pleasant thing, and I think it just pisses people off FAR more than it helps anything, but it's not violent.
  • [ – ] OralRobots reply Need context. Are you referring to blocking freeways and forcing people to pay attention to you? Or maybe destroying private property and assaulting innocent bystanders? That's not protest. That's terrorism. You have a right to say anything you want, but I have a right to go about my business unmolested. It's called liberty.
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      • [ – ] OralRobots parent reply The first two articles specifically cite blocking road or air traffic as the reason for the legislation. That's my point. You do not have the right to prevent others from going about their business.
        • [ – ] Kizzume parent reply I agree, but it's still peaceful, it's non-violent, and it's certainly not terrorism.
          • [ – ] OralRobots parent reply It's not non-violent though. Smashing windshields, slashing tires, setting cars on fire, and unlawfully detaining people without due process infringes their Constitutional rights. If you stood by the side of the road holding signs and yelling into a megaphone, very few people would have a problem with that.
            • [ – ] Kizzume parent reply The behavior you described in the comment that mine was a reply to was non-violent. The things you're talking about here are certainly violent. Violent things such as you describe should be and *ARE* illegal, regardless of if violence has made change in this country more than just about anything, sad as it is. This country will probably always have an old-west attitude about it, that is, unless it becomes a different country and we eventually realize, after the change has occurred, that it was happening right under our noses but took a few years to finish propagating, and people will then pretend that it was never the way it actually was. Because ignorance is strength, and 1984 Apple Macintosh commercials, to go.
              • [ – ] OralRobots parent reply If you agree that unlawfully detaining people without due process should be illegal, then why do you object to states passing laws against blocking road traffic and hindering the free movement of other citizens? I presume that's the kind of legislation you object to, since that was the kind of legislation described in the articles you cited as evidence that your freedom of speech would be violated.
    • Kizzume parent reply Thanks for letting me know, I will add a link to the description bar and to here in a moment...
  • [ – ] OralRobots reply Here are some often-asked questions that nobody will answer. The same "protestors" keep showing up at every antifa riot all across the country. Many of them don't appear to have the means to pay for their own travel and accommodations. Who is paying to fly them around and put them up in hotels and feed them? Is it an organization funded by George Soros, as many claim? Do the rioters really agree with Soros' globalist scheme to destabilize Western nations, or are they only in it for the money? Is he paying them enough to make it worth their while to risk injury or death on his behalf?
    • [ – ] Kizzume parent reply I'm not sure if they allow links for those who are not the channel owners, but if they do allow it, do you have any decent links to show that the same protesters keep showing up at these riots? I've found a number of sources for this, but they seem like completely bogus websites, many of them claiming that Sandy Hook was a hoax and many other types of retarded crap.
      • [ – ] OralRobots parent reply You can watch YouTube videos and see the same people at every riot. Some antifas on YouTube even admit they travel around to all of the pro-Trump rallies, and brag about the violence they plan to inflict while they're there. A person on Twitter who lives in Berkeley told me *none* of the people on either side of the conflict were from Berkeley, but were all outsiders. If these things are true, then there are a lot of people with no visible means doing a lot of expensive traveling.
        • [ – ] Kizzume parent reply Interesting. I'll look more into that. It certainly makes you wonder where the funding is from...
          • OralRobots parent reply The porn actress Louise Rosealma who got punched at Berkeley is affiliated with a group called Femen. There are photos of her attending one of their marches. Femen was financed by George Soros at one point before they decided to pull their crap in Israel and he cut off their funding. This is all came out when she was doxed. She's now running a GoFundMe scam for $85,000 to treat her alleged concussion. It also turns out that some of the rioters were in fact from Berkeley. One was a middle school teacher named Yvette Felarca. She has been on TV talking about the protests she has attended.
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