Myths About Automation

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  • [ – ] richardboom reply What people don't realize that machines used for automation will also create their own demand. You'll have experts that repair machine, write programs for these machines, produce this machines, etc. Sad to say but if you can be replaced by a machine, then that means your job is so repetitive and mechanical that you're not using your mind and your full capabilities.
    • [ – ] OralRobots parent reply You assume everyone has the intellectual capacity for more challenging work. Some people can only do well at repetitive and mechanical tasks. The big lie in the 1980s was that when we moved industrial production overseas, every American would have a high-paying high-tech "service job." Oddly, nobody ever asked, "What about people who don't have the interest or aptitude for that kind of work?" It's moot anyway because those jobs never materialized in the numbers required to keep everyone employed. The only "service jobs" that have multiplied in the past 30 years are subsistence-wage jobs that require even less mental ability than a factory job. So in spite of all the glowing promises of globalization, we still have millions of people in menial jobs who aren't using their minds and full capabilities. The difference now is they're far less prosperous, and many are even grossly over-educated for the jobs they've been able to find.
      • richardboom parent reply I agree. Sure a lot of people will lose their jobs and never join the workforce again. This is a sacrifice. Can you imagine if the industrial revolution didn't happen "because we're going to lose jobs"? Where would we be now? I don't believe that people can ONLY do repetitive mechanical tasks. People can get retrained, they have to adapt like most people do. I find it hard to accept that people working repetitive mechanical tasks don't have any other aptitudes. There are so many jobs that are not mechanical and requires a human touch. Problem is, a lot of people don't want the disruption.
      • freerangehobo parent reply The grand promises given to us by the globalists has proven to be nothing more than a Disney fantasy. It covers over their diabolical aims to impoverish most of us, herd us into their slave camps, which are disguised cleverly as emergency housing (FEMA),and from there, thinned out until only the compliant remains for the use of the elite for selective breeding, experimentation, and sexual gratification.
    • [ – ] rxantos parent reply Not really. You are creating an environment in which people have to spend decades and a lot of money just to get to compete for limited amount of jobs. For each job created by technology 20 disappear. And this are not the old machines that would require operators, but intelligent machines that require 1 operator for each 100 machines. Humans are going the way of the horse when the car as introduced. At first cars where funny and no one thought they will replace horses. Now horses are uncommon. I am a bit privileged in the technical area. But I do see the writing in the wall. If the paradigm based on greed is not changed, there will be war.
      • richardboom parent reply Good point. But you still have other jobs that machines won't replace. Nurses, psychologists, graphic designers, web programmers, caregivers, teachers etc. It will definitely be tougher, yes. But take the example of teachers, you have options to teach in a school or use the free market of the internet. I would require an entirely different set of skills, mindset, and some entrepreneurial skills to survive when automation comes. But to say, that there will be nothing for humans like horses I think is not a very good analogy. Horses can't reinvent themselves. Of course, I could be wrong and we could have a Terminator-Skynet-type of future.
  • The_New_One reply Your first point is a bit of a lie; most jobs replaced by machines will be customer service, ect. Also, you say the prices will drop? How optimist of you. :3
  • yogdab reply I can agree with you 100% Stefan. I work for an engineering company that has been automating a timber treatment and processing plant for the last 5 years. The place has quadrupled in size with lots of new jobs created. People still need to run these machines and people will always need to maintain them. Production goes up and new jobs are created. The result is a uniform quality product that costs less.
  • rxantos reply Myth my ass Stefan. You are being intellectually dishonest. Most people will have to compete with lower and lower amount of jobs available for less and less pay. And to do that they will need to get into more and more debt. Learning the few needed specializations. If the economical paradigm does not change, there will be war, Of course that do not fit into your "Capitalism is God" point of view. You are too close to see the shortcomings of the current system. (Not that commies are any better). A solution will be technocracy, but that will happen only after the war.
  • reverendsimonsideways reply So who pushes this myth is it all sides or more so the left?
  • CiliRat reply I work in training and the thing I find most disturbing is the unwillingness of people to train in new skills when older skills start becoming obsolete. I don't think I can use any actual examples so I will make one up. Lets say you have a workforce trained in building widget A. They have been building Widget A for a long time. They know there job and they do it well. However, the designers have come up with Widget B and additional skills are required to Build it. A plan is implemented to phase out Widget A in favor of Widget B. You start retraining the work force in small groups to build Widget B. The problem is that most of the workers don't want to build widget B. They want to do what they know. and about half of each group will not be successful in learning how to build widget B. Some will intentionally fail so they remain on the Widget A line. After you cycle through the entire workforce you end up with two groups. One building A and another B. Your now half way to switching over...more. The next thing is hire new people willing to build widget B and start laying off the ones who build Widget B .Eventually you are only making Widget B and you have 50% new employees. The ones laid off complain and the new hires are less expensive then the ones they had to let go...... Workforces need to re-tool occasionally, just like factories or they become unproductive.
  • GeorgeEnglish reply You nailed it!
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