THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR THE NEWCOMERS!!! WTF?!?!

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  • [ – ] Rawman reply This feels like one more step to hide away the naughty and ugly children. When we was babies it was cute to have us it made them look good, but now we need braces, school supplies, lunch boxes and pocket money... They wanna show off the nice graduated children with degrees. The nice pristine adopted kids who have bright blue eyes and spikey hair. Not us ADHD ridden kids who have dirt on their face and spit. Not us who write on the walls and roll on the floor with the dog. I am trying to not do "drama" stuff right now but it's really hard to feel welcomed...
    • [ – ] Kentantino parent reply lol yup great analogy
    • [ – ] Lonecomplex parent reply Talked about it in my video on it, but big Youtubers come with a packaged audience, and moreover they'd get pushed because their content is proven (and therefore it's assumed it's refined as well). Said it before: the whole thing is driven by money. Vidme (read: BitKitchen, Inc) has investors and stakeholders - people with money on the line. Decisions are going to be predicated on money because beyond just making enough dosh to do payroll, those people are going to see their monetary interests met. Not saying it's "right" or "good" or trying to burst anyone's bubble, but business is what it is, regardless of what people get told. Even non-profits can't run at a loss forever.
      • [ – ] Rawman parent reply Oh god a Lonecomplex notification is always heartattack mode haha. Yeah I agree that there is a business side of it and that YouTubers are definitely the best for the goal...but why I came here was we was told small creators are #1 priority pretty much.
        • [ – ] Lonecomplex parent reply Clearly time to up your priority by getting more followers and subs, right? Should be easy if you just get trending and team picked a lot, right? All you need to do is just make more "community friendly" content, right? ; ) The only way to be completely free of the kind of stuff that happens on Youtube (demonetization / censorship) or Vidme (the trending / promotion issues many people have discussed) would be to make your own site. But your own site is just you, right? No community to bounce stuff off of, or co-create with. And of course there's the whole issue of growing a fanbase on just yourself... There's a balance in there somewhere. Finding it on Vidme would be nice. It's hard for us from this perspective to know what challenges Vidme faces (besides making money to keep the lights on). A symbiotic relationship sounds ideal, but then when money's involved, someone's nearly always on the winning side. That said, you gotta ask yourself: how much content would you be wil...moreling to push out to make Vidme money, knowing you'd get little to nothing in return from them? How far would you go to help Vidme, knowing you'd be on the short end of that deal? That's why I keep harping on the same note my man: Make the content for yourself. If other people like it, great. If other people benefit, great. And it's a traveling show. Youtube yesterday, Vidme today, somewhere else tomorrow. This is the age of the Internet after all.
          • Rawman parent reply Yooo!!! You spying on me hahahhhaha. Community injustice is now "Community friendly" hahaha. I can't imagine trying to make a site never mind how to get traffic to it without money for advertising. Tbh you make a good point. Us as small creators I can't imagine many being able to give vidme content great enough to be considered truly exclusive to be able to represent the site in a way that a 1m YTer can. But it doesn't mean we shouldn't be considered equal to them. It doesn't mean they should represent the site and I can't when this site is meant to be about "make friends" as much as "make money" lol. I do try my best to just make content and have great time. Just calming down a bit for a moment haha. But the lunatic may return!!!! Haha.
    • [ – ] BrassCandy parent reply I just heard you narrate this. Too meta.
    • [ – ] MartyReactions parent reply Well... they do got better content... Plus, those channels were very underrated on YouTube. I've never heard of jaiden or extra credits until I joined vidme.
      • Rawman parent reply But she has like 1 million subs on YouTube and gets 200,000 views in like 1 hour after uploading... I mean. She doesn't really need the extra 1000 views she would get here in 24 hours. But I'm probably being a bit bias. It's not my site I have no control but I can voice my opinion we all are allowed to do that. And the community will decide at the end what they agree with.
      • Hayatori parent reply True but that's no the point. The point he is trying to make is that YouTube instantly shows video content that helps content creators; whereas, Vidme does not show video content right away which is not helpful
  • [ – ] MarzieMalfoy reply I'm always logged in too so I never noticed that either. Makes me feel like shit that I'm a vidme exclusive creator, yet, they push people that have already been noticed. I'm not big or anything, but I can just imagine how the big vidme exclusive creators feel.
  • [ – ] MFKraven reply landing page looks like a scam tbh, and only featuring content creators that are or were youtube creators is like well, i can always look at em while on Youtube and its a LOT easier to navigate there. I really hope @vidme just gets some sort of direction, and ignores some of its criticism and tries to put their vision across, cause i want them to be successful
  • [ – ] Rawman reply Great point... Tbh i don't like the current home page...
  • [ – ] Hoshi-Hana reply I remember when I first saw the FRONT front page when I created my account my account and if I hadn't heard about from friends I would have thought that it was a payment marketing service for big YouTubers. Not a free service which all of us can gain from. I really like the banner and the description is fine too, however as you say yourself it needs to be more visual. Either as you suggested or consisting of a row of videos within different categories as well as "new" creators, verified creators and featured creators. Where's the art at? lol. There's animation but not normal crafts. Nice video Ken!
  • [ – ] SamEarl13 reply Yeah I have to agree that the front page is extremely anti viewer, makes sense its mostly creators here now. A few creators might see it and think "Those creators use it so it must be good" but any viewers will be like "I can watch (or am already subbed to) those people on YouTube". And it seemed like they only chose big YouTubers as well...
    • Orginaljun parent reply For the view not so great, but i think they just testing things out to promote vidme. The front page just changed a couple weeks ago. But i hope this is temporary.
  • whako reply I agree on this man it does need fixing for sure the way it looks to be honest....
  • [ – ] SpeedRave reply I never knew that this was a thing.... That makes even the verified content creators feel worthless
    • [ – ] Rawman parent reply We have felt worthless for a long time it's just we don't show it because we know unverified people have a struggle and we don't wanna look ungrateful. We have tried to fight to help small channels out and it makes us look bad. We have tried to tell vidme to make changes that benefit everyone and our words are manipulated to make us look bad. No matter what we do we look bad and we feel for small unverified channels the most. Especially kentantino made a great video about it. But no matter what we do or say we get ignored or made to look bad.
      • [ – ] SpeedRave parent reply I can totally understand. But tbh, I never saw you and the other high-followed guys in that way, cause you put some free time together to create a video just for the newer generation of Vidme to catch up and also empathize here in the community to help to let this website sustain and have fun. VidMe is handling the search for smaller creators in a different light and focus and I think it´s not wrong at all to give someone a hand who needs help. People mostly think that the bigger Vidizens uses this as tactic to get more follows and people call them out for that. I pretty much think that´s why you guys suffer so much. Well, I can only look at MrAT´s way of "supporting" others to see what is wrong. For me, you guys doing fine!
        • Rawman parent reply Also we get the feeling that vidme them self don't like us much and those who we try to represent consider what we do as drama even though it's our only method... We have tried all other avenues and we get ignored. Videos are always final resort. Thanks for not seeing us as negative we want love equally for all. Thanks for seeing what we do as a good thing. I know kentantino personally is not giving up but I am defeated. He's better than me at standing up for people. What AT has done was 100% selfish and clear as day what kentantino done, me etc was always clearly selfless and not benefiting us at all. In fact it hurts our reputation and risks our channel.
    • [ – ] Kentantino parent reply hell yeah is a poor made design they should have plan this more.
      • SpeedRave parent reply Yup thats sad. They should put more input into the homepage and like you said, also feature creators who helped and supported to hold this site longer than any youtuber here on Vidme.
  • AstroLizard reply This kind of criticism is important. You saw something you didn't agree with, thought that it wasn't the best for the site and the creators. So you spoke about it. Good.
  • [ – ] Shut_Up_Buddy reply I am absolutely not surprised one bit. Of course they will put the big names front and centre. The little guys will always get kicked to the curb or swept under the rug. They need to attract more people to make more money. Expect a lot worse and more of it. Lol
  • GunDoctorTV reply Interested, You make a great point. I never noticed this.
  • whako reply When you have a new brand you need something to make it look at for a first impression. Home page is bland and shows a slogan that is a bit trash imo, but show other creators than the youtubers. Hb the Vidme exclusive widening out the audience they see than the same youtubers as always. Make it more creative and interactive very bland from the current look of it.
  • SC87Returns reply Vidme need to change the front page, this is bad.
  • [ – ] SonicMcPatriotic reply I don't like how the side suggested videos (by the video you are watching) shows what's on the trending page. I like how on YouTube it shows videos of the same type and more vid by the creator. If I want to see trending I go to the tending page. I am not suggestion turning Vidme into YouTube, If Vidme wants to beat the competitor, they have to be better.
    • [ – ] Kentantino parent reply that my point is not that we want the site to be same but in some features yes it should be
      • [ – ] SonicMcPatriotic parent reply I also wish we could go back and edit our posts. LOL The side videos, by the main videos. I don't remember why they are featured. I think they are all verified. A new person wouldn't know why those videos are featured. It is the same ones on every video (for a day?) Yeah, I don't like that. I would rather suggestion of videos on the same topic, and maybe a couple more by the creator.
  • VonHelton reply New creators should be the ones that get on the front page, not the top ones.
  • [ – ] Watersurf reply Alright, this will be a negative comment. I disagree with you completely for the reason that the new front page of vidme is way better than what we've been getting. As a new user, I would rather see familiar faces from a more known website then see a bunch of trash from users on the front page. No offense to them or yourself personally, but I rarely find anything likable from the trending page. Majority of it is quantity content that doesn't seem appeasing to most audiences. Yeah, every once and a blue moon something pops up of interest but for the most part, it's people stroking vidme or hating on vidme to users roasting each other. We even have youtube re-uploads making their way on the front page, that nothing is wrong with that but as a viewer, NOT CREATOR, I would rather see new and original content, not something that's complete and utter crap. As for the front page, I see why you are mad because new and upcoming vidme stars aren't being featured there, doesn't mean they won't b...moree in the future. Vidme has to bring in bigger audiences with familiar faces as it's the easiest to do. Come time, I'm sure they will feature vidme creators. Basically, my overall point is, the login page is better than it's been and I completely trust the vidme staff to fix the problems the vidme community has brought upon itself. The reason our website is getting crapped on is because of our community. If we had a community with a different attitude, I'm sure we would make much more leeway and not be what some call a "laughing stock of social media". I got hope in vidme, but our community needs to change.
    • [ – ] Kentantino parent reply Tell me one day you have ever agreed with me water?
      • [ – ] Watersurf parent reply I agreed with your trash content video, that had to be brought up. I'm just defending vidme here and their changes. After visiting them I can tell you the direction they are heading in will benefit us creators in the long run. I'm not allowed to speak of the upcoming changes but just trust my word on it.
  • [ – ] KayToons reply I feel like they should also maybe use the featured creators on the front page
  • GoMGTOW reply I fully concur with Kentantino's sentiments... That was my first thought too when I saw this... Basically what it say's to me as a viewer is that Vidme favors advertising BIG YOU TUBERS over Vidme only content creators. It's bad enough my content gets knocked off the New Recently Uploaded videos within the first 15 minutes of uploading it. To find my content you have to go into the Podcasting category. It's just really disheartening that Vidme chooses to bury their original content creators under You Tube content.
  • AxxL_Afriku reply True, brother brother.
  • [ – ] Mattwo reply Eli has plenty of good criticism about Vidme.
    • [ – ] Kentantino parent reply yeah i am with him in some stuff other the guy pis me off
      • [ – ] GeneralTiberiusxX parent reply Still unlike YouTube Vidme has a future
        • [ – ] Mattwo parent reply expand (possible spam) You.... haven't seen Vidme's Alexa stats have you? http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/vid.me http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/myspace.com (smaller ranking numbers are better and lower numbers next to a down arrow in red are better btw, this means Vidme is currently doing better than Myspace in Global Rank but is tanking about twice as fast)
          • [ – ] GeneralTiberiusxX parent reply Yeah but it's doing better than YouTube now and soon it could be the one to replace YouTube
            • [ – ] Mattwo parent reply YouTube is stably ranked #2 globally and in America... How the fuck does that count as "better"?
              • [ – ] GeneralTiberiusxX parent reply Well ever since YouTube introduce these Bad policies YouTube has been on the decline it's not as popular as it once was I know if YouTube doesn't get his shit together eventually vidme will be ahead of them
                • [ – ] Mattwo parent reply And no, YouTube is not on a decline, their position is stable.
                  • [ – ] GeneralTiberiusxX parent reply I wouldn't be too sure about that I was there on YouTube I saw account get deleted I saw people leaving YouTube YouTube is on the decline in it is the true sadly of course YouTube will have its position for a long time but eventually they would lose it the YouTube crisis is pretty bad these problems on YouTube could cost YouTube it's dominant position
                    • [ – ] Mattwo parent reply The data doesn't lie. It even says it's more accurate the closer it is to #1
                      • [ – ] GeneralTiberiusxX parent reply And by the way data isn't always correct as you think it is
                      • [ – ] GeneralTiberiusxX parent reply Ever since YouTube started introducing policies that everyone disagrees with YouTube has been losing its popularity so I'm sorry to tell you this but YouTube going on the decline is sadly true
                        • Mattwo parent reply You're going to have to provide some hard evidence that YouTube is losing a significant amount of users at this point. Otherwise, you can't claim that.
                        • MovieVigilante parent reply Yes, it's true that some YouTubers left for other platforms but the number is probably so insignificant that it barely registers. Can you tell me how many YouTube creators left the platform? Give me a definitive number, not a guess. All the big YouTube creators I follow are still there. Just because a few have left does not mean YT is on the decline.
                    • MovieVigilante parent reply This reminds me a lot of when people thought tsu.co was going to put Facebook out of business. It promised to be better and more friendly than Facebook and would also pay you for your content. People were convinced that it was the next big social media site, so much so that some even deleted their Facebook accounts. Less than two years later, tsu.co shut down without any notice. So much for that.
                • [ – ] Mattwo parent reply YouTube is still the best there is at what it's meant to do. The staff here can barely do anything more than the basics when it comes to making a video hosting platform and have no fucking clue how to properly run a creator-driven social media platform.
                  • [ – ] GeneralTiberiusxX parent reply It's true that YouTube has that high position but if they don't get that shit together YouTube is going to eventually lose its dominance
                  • [ – ] GeneralTiberiusxX parent reply Vidme is still a very young website it will take time it can be like YouTube one day but look if you look at YouTube the YouTube staff does absolutely nothing to fix the problems all they do is use everyone for money that's all the YouTube stuff does they incompetent they'll fuck ups is one of the reasons why YouTube is dying
                  • [ – ] GeneralTiberiusxX parent reply Vidme is still a very young website it will take time it can be like YouTube one day but look if you look at YouTube the YouTube staff does absolutely nothing to fix the problems all they do is use everyone for money that's all the YouTube stuff does they incompetent they'll fuck ups is one of the reasons why YouTube is dying
                    • Mattwo parent reply You want to talk about not fixing problems? It's been FOUR YEARS and they STILL segregate us by verified and not verified.
                    • Mattwo parent reply Vidme is four years old. It had plenty of time to grow but the data shows a DECLINE, NOT GROWTH, that is BAD. Vidme was doing fine for a while until some of us started noticing that the staff wasn't properly communicating with the community.
                    • Mattwo parent reply Actually Vidme is OLDER THAN YOUTUBE... https://i.gyazo.com/bfb4e1c5a60a773446403ad60a5695c8.png https://www.google.com/search?q=Vidme&biw=1600&bih=760&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A%2Ccd_max%3A9%2F1%2F2013&tbm=
                • [ – ] Mattwo parent reply http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/youtube.com
                  • [ – ] GeneralTiberiusxX parent reply But look over committing you look these things up on YouTube it will tell you everything about what's going on with it
                    • [ – ] Mattwo parent reply I'm asking for cold hard facts.
                      • [ – ] GeneralTiberiusxX parent reply Like look up some videos about it
                        • Mattwo parent reply Burden of proof lies on the one making the claims.
                        • [ – ] Mattwo parent reply People whine about YouTube all the time but they still use it. I've seen that plenty of Vidme users use both Vidme AND Youtube
                        • [ – ] Mattwo parent reply Also I'm not asking for stuff people say. I'm. ASKING. FOR. COLD. HARD. FACTS. NOT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE SHITTING ON YOUTUBE.
                          • [ – ] GeneralTiberiusxX parent reply Ok anyway I would like you to know that I enjoyed this, talk and I do respect your opinion by the way and I wish you a very nice day
                            • [ – ] MovieVigilante parent reply The thing he is asking for though, is facts, not opinions. You can't say Vidme is doing better than YouTube without factual statistics to back that up. Why would you say such a thing as preposterous as that? Nobody believes that for a second. YouTube is still king.
                              • GeneralTiberiusxX parent reply I know that Vidme in 2014 but it was way before the YouTube crisis started which in 2016 but what I'm saying about YouTube is fact I know that I don't have any facts to present about what's going on with YouTube I still don't know how to give the link on vidme because I'm still very new myself anyway you have a nice day
                              • GeneralTiberiusxX parent reply Well there's still a big number people on YouTube but the site is declining I did see it with my eyes people getting there channel is taken down for no reason demonetized peoples videos Plus people have difficulties getting views on the videos not to forget the trolls YouTube hasn't done much to fix it's broken system
                              • [ – ] GeneralTiberiusxX parent reply OK I do understand but I'm just saying the fact is YouTube is dying it's just no longer what it was
                            • Mattwo parent reply Well I can't say I respect yours when you're just spouting a bunch of bullshit while acting like you know what you're talking about when you CLEARLY do not.
                      • GeneralTiberiusxX parent reply OK very well just look it up
                  • GeneralTiberiusxX parent reply I've been there on YouTube and I know what's going on YouTube demonetizing people taking their channels down not to forget the ad blockade
                  • GeneralTiberiusxX parent reply But yeah YouTube was in a very good position back in 2015 and 2014 but now if you look in YouTube you can see the content is decreasing
                  • GeneralTiberiusxX parent reply It's true that Vidme is 4 years old and it was probably having a difficult time growing but that was like two years before the YouTube crisis started
  • [ – ] GhostHits reply Since I view vidme as a community of creators, it is slightly annoying that many of the featured channels on their front page haven't left a single comment. They treat vidme like a dumping ground for their content, channel awesome for instance. I like the nostalgia critic and all, but he isn't an active member in the community, they are just trying to get their fingers into as many pies as possible. Vidme sucking up to them simply because they are big youtubers is actually kind of pathetic to watch, especially when they are sucking the balls of fakers like the whole H3H3 fiasco!
    • WebNoob parent reply There's no comments because Nostalgia Critic isn't officially here. It's a fake thing like H3H3 was.
    • Kentantino parent reply Hahahha that is soooo true that was like the worse thing that has happen. H3h3 fiasco is something to never forget lol
  • [ – ] Fanny_Urbanhomesteader reply Haha, gave up on this site ages ago. They don't even put new uploads in the new category for us lil people..No name no go. Always a popularity contest
  • Yellow_Syrup reply I really liked the old layout of Vid.Me. It was the same main page logged in as logged out. It was really slick and helped me find creators very easily. I've been blown away by the sheer stupidity of this. Why fix what's not broken, the same reason so many people get mad at YouTube. Thanks for spreading the word.
  • lancenelson reply I agree the front page on vidme as of the moment is not really optimal. It has to change to also appeal to people who just want to watch videos.
  • ShinyBigBoo reply I love Vidme and I still only create on vidme but the app and the site itself leave so much to be desired. Viewing my notifications, for example; I find it's easiest to simply enter the url vid.me/notifications ... why isn't that its own tab in the Android app? Or on the site in the menu? 1 problem of many.
  • [ – ] TheGamingCentaur reply I get the need for more creators, but that feels a bit..... hamfisted. Why not create a new about page for newcomers?
  • [ – ] PopFizzy reply When they first come here. people are going to think that it's like an animation website or something like Newgrounds example.
  • Hackenslash reply Yeah I just came to the site a few days ago. First thing I thought was.. ok they want me to create a channel... but why? What do they have to offer? No idea what to expect...
  • Brologic_Productions reply Huh. That's something I didn't think about. I mean while I still understood why bigger YouTubers were on the front page I was taken aback by the lack of featured creators that are more supportive of vidme. I mean not even Jenny Fedora? There should have at least been a mix. But I didn't even think about how it was presented. I still think they should have what they advertise as (the like human powered help and what not), but you made a good point that videos should be the first thing you see. That's sort of the point of a site that is about content: viewers want to see content to see if this would be worth investing time into. This also makes me want to add that on youtube when you're watching a video the videos you can scroll on the side are related to the video you're watching (with some recommendations too) while on vidme it's what's next on the main hot page. It's not even of one category and I'm not sure if I'm okay with that. This sort of goes further to show that there need t...moreo be improvements on other methods to find content. I'm sure they're aware of my position on that by now, but I do think it bears repeating.
  • [ – ] truwho82 reply Yeah. Some of the verification steps are also kind of annoying too.
  • [ – ] mintteamew reply I watched through this entire video waiting for ferret. No ferret. Where is your ferret? This video does raise a good point though. I think it would be neat if vidme had a micro tutorial for new users on the site (I made a tumblr yesterday, thats where this idea is coming from if you were curious) like.... just imagine a tiny adorable astro pointing out and explaining the notifications, upvotes, sharing, comments, sidebar, FAQ, etc etc. It would be SUPER CUTE and educational! more ferret plz.
  • LoyalKnight reply The Vidme staff needs to go back and make another landing page, if your video sharing site landing page looks worse than Youtube's you have fail😂.
  • SubZeroAppleSauce reply What they should do is have the trending and recent videos on the top of that page, then have what you see now on the bottom.
  • [ – ] xNoble_Guardian reply I don't know, the whole layout of the website isn't really that nice right now in my opinion, but i'm sure they will make it better as long as we keep giving feedback. (Not a fan of the clickbait by the way)
  • [ – ] Rquerd reply I feel like the new page looks like those wannabe "sub4sub" sites and like what many other says; it looks like a scam. However, I'm not completely sure if I want Vidme to have the same layout as YouTube. Vidme is all about helping the smaller community and all YouTube does promote companies and big Youtubers in general. Yes, Vidme put all the people with the most followers on their start-up page, but that's just a simple technique of advertisement. Take for example, let's say I'm a huge fan of this one youtuber that has millions of subs.If I see that he uploads on that website, why not check it out myself?
    • [ – ] Kentantino parent reply Yeah, but do you really want to see a guy who is already is on yt that is more easy for you just to go over there. Thanks for the comment XD
      • Rquerd parent reply That is true but don't get me wrong, I totally understand what you are saying. Vidme should be a great opportunity for smaller channels to grow. I mean, I'd love to get a shout-out from vidme. But going back on what I said, a fan of a content creator may follow them on any social media; Take for example MangaMinx. She joined vidme because she was tired of YouTube's BS, so she came here for a bit. And if you look at her comments, most of the comments are saying that they joined vidme just for her (I'll admit, that's actually how I found vidme as well; because of her). Also thanks for replying! :D
  • Orginaljun reply I don't know for sure, but i think its temporary what you see as a viewer. I know its bad for the viewer or the lower view/ followers creators of vidme what you see at the front page :S. They have change the front page just a couple of weeks ago for the viewer. Because i did log out a few weeks ago and it was just normal vidme page. I think the main reason is they want to test things out and its not like its permanent, see it as a vidme commercial advertisement to promote vidme site to attract creators ,but for viewers ye its not the right tactic. But people have you seen the make money with ads?, i thinks when this ads earning option is available for us soon in our settings, this is huge for the original creators comparing to youtube. Lets give the vidme team some slack and lets all calm down, because make money with ads :D!!!
  • MrMemeKing reply Damn I never noticed this either..Vid.me please please do something about this. Come on. I thought VIDME wasn't about the money but about the community we have created. When someone goes on that homepage they get smacked in the face with "HEY YOU CAN MAKE MONEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY" then it features already established content creators. Hm. I don't like this. I want vidme to expand there horizons and try to be a more community based website. Bleh
  • Illustration reply Wow, I didn't even know it was like this if you weren't logged in... I think they should really change this- if content isn't right in the user's face, new people would struggle as they won't know what content they should be watching!
  • [ – ] Aaronshy reply This site certainly has issues and after doing what I was told to do I'm still not verified yet.
    • [ – ] Kentantino parent reply I know....saw that is f up that they have not give you back your verified
      • Aaronshy parent reply I mean technically I was never verified to begin with but there was a glitch where it looked like I was. I deleted the NSFW content remembered all they said and still nothing.
  • [ – ] o_OFrosty_BrosO_o reply Wow! Hope this opens some eyes. I had no idea since I'm usually logged in. That page should be the sign up page not the main vidme page. The main page should display what the site is all about. To be safe they should be showing the featured creators only so certain content is shown to newcomers (not trash content).
  • [ – ] BrianAiya reply I haven't logged out in Vidme since i logged in the 1st time. I just saw some screenshots from others who shared in Twitter but i thought that only when you want to sign in to create an account it shows this and that newcomers would see the trending page. We have a LOT of creators in Vidme, and we need more viewers, so it's a good point that you and Eli said this.
    • Orginaljun parent reply I did log out every week or so. so this front page change is a couple of weeks ago. I hope its temporary.
  • [ – ] I3UTM reply It appears Vid.me is taking a cue from Facebook and Twitter (tow platforms that promote for you to connect other social media websites.) You can also go to Hot, Featured, New, etc...to look at vids. The face of the web page is clean. I like it. They should however, promote the Hot or New pages rotationally as well as the clean page.
    • [ – ] I3UTM parent reply Or maybe a 30 second "transitional" page (using transitions in CSS) to the Hot page. Yes?
      • Kentantino parent reply There so many ways to aproch it I do get they want a clean cut page but the fact is that different from Facebook you trying to show of you creators the more you promote you creator the more at the long run people will come and waste money on the site. Now i come to the website and see that i will go like wtf what are you.....some people dont even think to press hot.
  • [ – ] realLain011001 reply why is there conflict, lain doesn't love that, we should connect
  • [ – ] thatgirlavery reply It's true. Just started posting to Vidme and was totally lost. The layout needs a little work haha.
  • UffdaFida1776 reply Give it a chance. It'll get better over time.
  • Moddedtohell reply That's not cool its hard enough trying to get the eye balls. Gotta keep on truckin right
  • [ – ] EmeraldMasterPixed reply My apologizes for makin' my comment and Upvote before I watch your video in full, but I am kinda-itchin' to share my opinion. The front page is perfectly fine, but not for this platform. Why?; Simple, creators are unable to make any kind of light that glimmers in the void black chasm, quality content creators are thrown into this chasm because it seems that the little guys don't matter on YT. This is different on VidMe and well, the site management will go into a bad direction from time to time, it's everyone's job to help steer VidMe in the right direction even if the staff may know better at times. The fact though that VidMe's public "guest"/newcomer view is like that, VidMe, guys, we love ya very much and yea, the front page looks great, but this DOES NOT WORK FOR THE GENERAL CREATOR! I mean that in the most polite way, I'm small, I comment, I have videos, just not uploaded on here yet, but makin' comments and interaction' isn't enough to have a healthy growth pace, or rather a chan...morece for it, but this takes time. Now a GREAT change to the front page would be to have a randomizer that will choose creators at random an display a few of their videos in a row just under a link to the creator's channel, the channel link would take up a row, but some of their videos AT RANDOM would display just under the row-wide channel link, random channels would be determined and displayed in the slots randomly. It would also help to put EMPHASIS on random because small creators would be found; and when I say "random", I mean NO ALGORITHMS! The current front page is extremely damagin' to VidMe and well, YT doesn't even do this and the fact it doesn't is a good thing. Why?; Because any creator can be seen, it wouldn't hurt to have a second type of Trending, an unverified Trending page Why?; Because the small content creators have a chance to be seen, why it's not made yet, well, I imagine the majority may not of thought of it. I'll watch the rest of this video sometime later so I can possibly expand on my opinion on this, regardless I DO agree with Kentantino about this so far.
    • [ – ] EmeraldMasterPixed parent reply (Apologizes if I made some mistakes in my original comment, I sone on my phone, so yea.)
      • [ – ] Kentantino parent reply Hahhaah dont need to apologize same here all my grammar horrors most of the time is because of my phone XD great comment and i like that random creator idea XD
        • [ – ] EmeraldMasterPixed parent reply (Thanks, glad you like my randomizer idea! :D) I just got through the rest of your video, I do imagine this'll change for the better, namely due to the fact that you and probably others have made a big ol' kerfuffle about it, and rightfully so too! This current front page would be better off on a more informative page, like the FAQ section or even the About Us section, it anything at all, this is important/valuable information, but like the community continues to express; the creator is more important. If you can avoid these kinds of negatively-impactful decisions, you'd make a hell of a lot more money later down the line because you showed us you actually care. Yea, everyone's hyped for chances of monetization on VidMe, I have actually seen some side-video ads already, looks like VidMe might even get premium ads in the near future, so let's not go and just be interested in how much money that can be generated by creators and not give a shit about them afterwards, VidMe DOES NOT NEED...more this infamous "advertiser-friendly" trash considered or in action, as a matter of fact, these adverts need to LEARN there place, we know what happened on YT, let's prevent that from happenin' here. Right now and probably always, we'll have platforms like this and Patreon that allow us to make a profit, when you're a content creator, you NEED TO CARE MORE ABOUT YOUR VIEWERS, because if you don't...you can lose money, care about your audience and worry about your wallet when you NEED to, but I digress. VidMe, your creators as a whole deserve a chance to shine and this current front page isn't helpin' the community and newcomers by any means, I've explained why already, so you can read my original comment on this just a few inches up the comment section. We understand that you're tryin' to get more traction and you've been doin' that very well, from the looks and sound of things, you've surpassed those other platforms that have promised this to the world and sold out, seriously, let's not have VidMe be sold out, there's a lot of integrity on this platform and bein' sold out would just water it down to dilution of virtual nothingness, WE DON'T NEED THAT! VidMe, we'll always need you to listen to us, the community for things to be managed, fixed and adjusted to everyone's likings. As a matter of fact, you need some people in your team that'll have the job to talk to us, the people of VidMe, the community, it'd help everyone so much and would stop a bunch of headaches, we're fine to interact with the normal, current VidMe staff, but we need to be able to have people that can cleanly, safely, and civilly explain what's goin' on, what's goin' to happen and what to do to help. We can help and we have been, VidMe. Let's cooperate better by havin' better and more communication, expansion on this would help you medicate these problems and would attract more positive attention to VidMe. We love VidMe and this platform is somethin' we don't want to see be glorified to pander to particular groups, we need all groups to be welcome on here and we need to give them a chance to speak. This is why a VAST MAJORITY of us are here; to be heard without unreasonable prevention. VidMe, let's fix these problems, we can help you. Just ask us how we feel about somethin' new before you go on with it. Really though, we can help you with problems and help you with suggestions. Let's preserve VidMe together here! :D
          • [ – ] EmeraldMasterPixed parent reply (That moment when you wrote another novel inside your already made and published novel and can't re-submit it, cause reasons, yo!) God, I hope my comments are constructive.....since I love to write novel and essay sized comments! :P
            • [ – ] Kentantino parent reply Wow that was something XD and is true they need us to show the what we dont like and what is good for the site. No worries i actually love to read comments like this it shows that you did care of my video an that you have motivation to help vidme<3
              • [ – ] EmeraldMasterPixed parent reply And then there's the matter of gettin' some of my content on here.............motivation issues are the worst, man! ;-;
                • Kentantino parent reply I feel you but dont let that stop you put you content here I have been in those a few time but inkeep posting no matter what XD
  • [ – ] Squidware reply Aa
  • [ – ] EquallyWorthless reply Press Control, Shift, and N to open an Incognito window in Chrome. You can see what these websites look like without having to sign out and sign back in multiple times.
  • CrohnieGaming reply This is a good point. I mainly use the mobile app and I noticed this right away. It's hard to find new or different content and creators. They only show us a little bit of content. It's up to the viewer to search and search to find something for them
  • mayideza reply As a person that also has a YouTube channel, I hate that they promote YouTubers here. When I watch videos on Vidme I'm looking for videos I wouldn't find on YouTube.
  • [ – ] The_Mancave reply Great video and point! But from a marketing standpoint, I think their business plan is to Transfer big names from other platforms here and then the snowball effect will happen. When you go to the supermarket, you buy the name brands you know and not the other stuff in the back. (im the other stuff 😌😥) And the home page sold me because I was a creator looking for better monetization and those three words on the Home page is what I needed to see/here. So they are targeting creators 1st not viewers. They are not really concerned with marketing to new viewers because that what they have us doing for free. 😝 unless you have a following already its tough to get views here because all the viewers here are creators. And creators well create and make their own videos and besides chatting with viewers and other creators are really only here for entertainment. either really silly, super intellectually serious and informative or Drama provoking. Not all videos work on this platform yet. ...moreI only have a few vids but my views are not from vidme, but from people from my social media. 😞 Vidme is still evolving and hopefully this platform will have a better new viewer friendly home page and be a better viewership for undiscovered creators.
    • Kentantino parent reply True that I know we have to wait for change, but at this moment vidme feel like is all around the place and with the fiasco that was this past weekend lol
  • hombrelobo reply Fully agree. Never realized, but makes a lot of sense. Should be videos and nothing but videos in the front page ! :)
  • VidmeFunDiy reply YEP WE ARE SCREWED...
  • KJeeMusic reply Yup. I'm a new content creator who uploads music. Just uploaded a new track/video and checked the "music" category... I start 6 lines down and drop from there. I'm not particularily enamoured by Vidme yet and i'd like to see more done to help content creators start off.
  • wannabebritt reply i just came back to log in after a while, and saw this front page, not really knowing what to think... i agree with this video a LOT. there aren't many things youtube are good at, but they are good at advertising videos and what their website is meant for. vidme should really look at what youtube does to promote to a VIEWER perspective, instead of a creator perspective. though this is a creator friendly platform, it should also be viewer friendly and easy to access
  • [ – ] ScaryStoriesNYC reply You've identified a major problem with vid.me. It's not built to present your videos to the public, it's built so that you can "socialize" with other video creators. And how many people want to do that, honestly? Now that YouTube is promoting my videos again and our revenue has tripled in the last month, I have no reason to upload my videos here where I am not even allowed to specify what category my videos are in because vid.me refused to verify that I am me.
    • MovieVigilante parent reply You hit the nail on the head. Vidme's big sales pitch during the big YT advertiser controversy was that you could make money directly from your supporters without having to rely on ad revenue. First, you must be verified, though and there's no rhyme or reason to their criteria. I'm not verified, therefore I'm not making any money. Meanwhile, I'm making money on YT. Guess which one I'm going to stick with?
  • [ – ] DeviousOrange reply I am real tired of this meta analysis of VidMe.. it's been like this since it's inception. Focus on making quality content and you will always come out on top.
  • [ – ] WalkingForWeightLoss reply Good insight Kentantino.
  • [ – ] kassdog reply Omg anotger vidme video about vidme.
  • [ – ] scottwebb reply Current homepage is weird. I'm even confused on the making money from ad revenue but don't see that happening. Smaller vids thumbs would be good so more can fit in. It's all about better discovery. If I can find more that I want to watch here, I'll also want to create more here.
    • Kentantino parent reply yeah i wish the would push smaller creators there so much good stuff like this dude https://vid.me/TheAntonAndArthurShow he really work hard on his videos
  • [ – ] FemFury reply hmmm.. I never noticed that. That's crazy! Tienen que arreglar eso.
  • ShadicTheReviewGuy reply Right we need creator like me and many small content creators
  • Thebigjewishbear reply XD, do not even give upvote to my videos :(: 0
  • Thebigjewishbear reply XD, but vidme is asome
  • [ – ] ChrisAtariNerd reply They should just make a youtuber dedicated page.
  • InternetUnwind reply Great video, great points. It doesnt look as inviting as the page you see once logged in.
  • [ – ] TheBlogger reply It's not a wrong point. To be honest just like him i very rarely sign out, So this is news to me. But this site has clearly changed.
    • Kentantino parent reply My opinion they should ask us what we think about some stuff show us like a prototype before jumping off and just changing it.
  • umbysworld reply I noticed this yesterday when I went to the site on my phone. I was like "are you kidding me???"
  • Iannis_Hour reply Big YouTubers that are not posting vidme exclusive content they are not Vidizens
  • [ – ] GeneralTiberiusxX reply Well Vidme has a long way to go before can become the next YouTube The problems on YouTube or not good compared to Vidme
    • [ – ] Kentantino parent reply There a lot of opening to fix the site and they are doing it, but im comparing cuz when you do something you mesure it with another already done. Like lets say microsoft and apple they have learn from each other on not to do the mistake the other have done in the past.
      • GeneralTiberiusxX parent reply Yeah the important thing is we must make sure that vidme does not repeat the same mistakes as YouTube did in the past because you have to keep in mind one of the main reasons why YouTube is feeling is because of the lack of communication Vidme and The community itself needs to stay in contact to speak of ways to improve this site and make it great
  • GamingCentrum reply Good Point!!!
  • ELBADGAMER reply you are right
  • [ – ] mitori reply >it's going to be a short short video >almost 12 minutes just no :D
  • cianmcmanus reply Totally agree
  • AnimangaNation493 reply Yeah I saw that they need to fix that
  • CollabCentre reply Yesh boi the vidme homepage as a viewer perspectiv is worst
  • LoreReloaded reply Huh, yea that's nota bad point at all.. Good call on that.. I joined because I saw another user and I wanted to have a better connection with my staff and not have to compete with like professional made movies such as Avengers in quality ;P So.. good call
  • MikeTheMugger reply i have felt this problem from the first, with vidme. Far too much favoring of the ex-youtubers. I didn't come here to compete with 1000000K sub content creators from youtube.
  • News2Go reply vidme is working on this. great video
  • TreesandLeaves reply Vidme needs to change. If vidme wants to grow they have to change this
  • BiGEd5 reply This reminds me of the home page of kickstarter with a mix of YouTube. Which sucks for all of us cause new comers won't see it that interesting etc
  • MakeCrap reply Every time I get on Vidme, I see the same 6 people on the front page. Whoever does the algorithms needs to be fired. I agree with this guy. Make Vidme more diverse and stop showing the same people!
  • magicmanmo reply This is a valid point. Creators are nothing without their audience, and if it's a hassle for the audience to get to you... well you can see how that becomes a problem.
  • [ – ] HanzoSucks reply q
  • [ – ] POVincent reply Hopefully, Vidme will never become the misery fest that Youtube became for creators, however, since they've been at this for a while, perhaps we should take a few ques from them...like a decent front page.
    • [ – ] MovieVigilante parent reply YouTube has its share of problems but nowhere near Vidme's.
      • POVincent parent reply I've only been on here for over a couple months, but I don't see as many problems. Some of them, like this one, I give a little leeway since the site is still young and the people who run it are figuring things out still. When I see Youtube, I see a company that is ignoring problems that the creators are being very vocal about or their solutions are not sufficient/satisfactory.
  • ShadyShiba reply This is dumb, your pissed that they don't show small channels on the homepage? Youtube pushes out its most popular channels as well while sneaking in the recommendations based on what you like. The big channels being on the homepage is a marketing ploy to say "hey check out who's here." I think its a perfectly acceptable presentation for a new site trying to establish a footing by explaining what it does. God forbid you have to press one extra button to get to the videos, and god forbid the homepage more or less be a suggestion to make an account to get rid of it. People use things that popular makers use, thats why the popular people are ON THE HOME PAGE. Your not gonna get sent the latest GTX 1080 TI Extreme Giga Mega Ultra Edition just because they like hey, your a small streamer, your 10 followers will really showcase our GTX 1080, here's a free one. lol This video is a joke.
  • ExcalibursZone reply Hmm, I didn't remember the front page. I visited and created a channel. Sure the UI and layout needs lots of work, but the whole deal with vidme is to get creators on the site and to show big names that are recognizable to entice that. It's the age-old thing: Big celeb is here? If I create an account, I could get as big as big celeb! That's what the front page tells me. But it is distinctly lacking in original artists as well. The big names of Vidme weren't even there. :\
  • [ – ] DigitalJediMaster reply I think you're looking at this the wrong way. For starters, odds are new viewers aren't going to come in via the homepage. They're gonna come in via a very specific video that was shared with them from another website. Since the site is new by comparison to YouTube, then the homepage is, for the time being, going to be about driving new creators to the site. Not viewers. Because without creators, there'll be no viewers. That will probably change as they grow, but it's pretty sensible from a standpoint of building content. The homepage needs to avoid looking like a YouTube clone for right now, until a solid, reliable base of creators has been driven to the site, and remains established.
    • [ – ] Kentantino parent reply Then you doing wrong cuz without viewer there no creators to feed what the point of having a streaming service with out people to watch it? And they need to learn from their biggest competitor to be able to survive. this is a survival game.
      • [ – ] DigitalJediMaster parent reply You're kinda missing the point. You don't build a house without a foundation. Not just a foundation, but a solid one that passes inspection. The foundation is the creators. There will be plenty of passersby in the meantime that will watch videos, and creators are clearly watching each other's videos. But if you expect to draw viewers before you've built the foundation upon which a streaming site is built, then you're bound to fail. YouTube can do what it does now, because it already built it's foundation. You can't build Disneyland, and THEN start pouring the concrete. First they'll work on getting creators. Then they'll focus on drawing in more viewers. That won't happen via the homepage.
        • MovieVigilante parent reply I agree with this to a certain point but there are already cracks in the foundation due to the arbitrary verification process.
        • [ – ] Kentantino parent reply You missing the point to there already to many creator. there creator complaning of not getting views why because there alredy to many. What they need to do is promote the website not like they been doing mouth to mouth.
          • [ – ] MovieVigilante parent reply It's not that there are too many creators, it's that there are not enough viewers who are non-creators. But I agree with you that Vidme's homepage probably turns away more viewers than attracts them.
            • DigitalJediMaster parent reply But that goes back to the premise of new visitors coming in via the homepage. Which I pointed out earlier is probably significantly fewer. Most everyone will come into a content driven website via the shared content.
          • [ – ] DigitalJediMaster parent reply Too many creators? That's...that's precisely what you want. Precisely what they want. There will never be too many, as that will only ever be a fraction of potential viewers. Also, word-of-mouth is a highly effective marketing strategy, and likely the vast majority of us ended up here that way. And, again, the home page is not how most people will end up here. Most of us didn't learn about YouTube from the home page. We learned about it from all the videos people were sharing from it. That's they key here. And again ties into a creator driven site. We're going to be the biggest source of traffic into the site, because of what we share from it. It really is the smartest strategy. I mean, think about it for sec. Think about the content driven websites you personally visit every day. Are you drawn there because someone told you to go to that site and you looked up the homepage? Or did someone share an article, a meme or a video that was located on a specific page on that site? Odds are m...moreost of the sites you visited drew you in by specific, linked-to content. Not the homepage.
            • [ – ] Kentantino parent reply No actually most of the time i have seen commercials and adverts, but hey that you thinking i will respect it.
              • DigitalJediMaster parent reply One of the things they used to always tell me when I was a forum admin (well, technically, I still am, just for a dead site) is that "content is king". I heard the same mantra echoed from the video creator experts, and recently I heard the exact same phrase used by people in the news media industry. And it's true. I didn't have the time to put into my website; I certainly tried to make it user friendly, and gave people a ton of stuff to do. But I didn't have the time to do regular content. So activity dried up, even with thousands of members. Even with hundreds of games. Even with advertising it across every major social media outlet. It's basically a variation on "if you build it, they will come." Quality content attracts consumers more than advertising or fancy finishings. Just ask Elon Musk, who's never advertised for any of his companies, yet he's reshaping three industries.
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