Let's talk about YouTube (vid.me exclusive)

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  • [ – ] MrATAndreiThomas reply Youtube can GO TO FUCKING HELL!! I have no respect for youtube anymore after what they did to us small content creators by keeping us in the dark, promoting some of the most stinking, talentless big content creators on YouTube rewind, changing channel layouts to 3.0 cosmic panda back in 2012 to 4.0 the one channel back in 2013, both the cosmic panda and the one channel are the worst set of channel layouts that youtube ever created, youtube had messed up so many times that really pissed a lot of users off also I can not stand fucking clickbaiters, the subscribing glitch began in spring 2012 which made me lost over 10,000 subscribers back then before they force implemented the cosmic panda layout, then in late 2013 right after they forced implementated the one channel they added a stupid new commenting system to merge with Google plus then in December 2013 they upgraded the content identification system which was last introduced in mid 2008 which got me to leave youtube, then I came back...more in 2016 to continue making my videos consistently until they implemented the stupid advertising friendly guidelines and the youtube heroes programme, which was the final straw for me and to top it all of they had lied to us content creators saying that they was no subscribing glitch when they was and thats when started to leave youtube again but this time for permanent as I left youtube at new years eve 2016 to start fresh with vidme, MetaJolt and Vidbit future and now all the advertisers are pulling their ads away from YouTube which I knew more shit was about to happened with youtube and you know what, I am glad I left youtube to suffer the same way treat us small content creators like garbage with their deceitfulness hence, karma just bit youtube on the back side, so I am glad I left youtube for good which I'll be more supportive to vidme, because vidme is a breath of air and the team that operate their website are very well respected and more supportive to us small content creators. This is why vidme has got my respect as they respect me, fuck youtube, vidme is our new home now.
    • [ – ] Freeboot parent reply Yeah like I said: YouTube just keeps disappointing and disappointing. I'll go vidme exclusive as soon as they piss me off another time..
      • MrATAndreiThomas parent reply Youtube pissed me off so many times to the point I suffered their presence long enough I left youtube at new years eve 2016 not only because of their stupid advertising friendly guidelines Bullshit and their youtube heroes program but also by the fact they lied about the unsubscribe glitch issue.
  • [ – ] CanDooReactor reply The BIG you tubers are willing to sacrifice the free speech of others in order to keep the $pendolas coming in. Defranco, Sargon & Atheist all scraping thier hats to bow to the youtube masters and it's corporate owners. Shame on them, where is the Messiah of Free Speech, our General of Action? #Sargon'sShame
  • [ – ] The_Eldritch_Bee reply Really I like vidme more than I have ever liked YouTube as far as putting myself out there and creating content. YouTube for me is a still a great alternative for cable, but as a content creator I feel vidme is more welcoming. Perhaps I am looking at YouTube as large city and me being a nobody on YouTube it is a bit intimidating, but here it feels like like a mid-sized town where the little guy can still have a chance to make something of his/her self. I know that success is possible on YouTube, but with all the corporate interest I feel it will not be that way for much longer unless something changes.
  • WhiskySailor reply I'm glad vid.me is stepping it up. The sub and tip montization will hopefully promote actual good content, rather then the click baity ads system.
  • [ – ] Ms_K reply YT is a sinking ship imo.I'm gonna leave yt alone and focus on my content to post over here
    • [ – ] Freeboot parent reply It very well could be. That's why I'm also focusing a bit more on vidme. But even a ship that I'd slowly sinking can still get you far when you're already sitting in the life boat. (Ooh nice metaphor)
  • [ – ] madel_schmadel reply I think the only way to get EweTube's attention is to cause it financial pain, which can be done both through using aggressive ad blockers on that site and by promoting a healthy competitor like Vidme. When those two happen, EweTube will suddenly start to pretend to care at least a little.
    • [ – ] DerpieDoo parent reply Well.. first, I agree.. but only to a point.. Adblock will not hurt youtube. they lose some ad rev to adblock. but in the grand scheme they care little.. or they would have implemented a way to stop it (which IS doable) many sites do it already. Youtube does not ultimately care about adblock. which means they do not care about their creators. they do not suffer, but a tech channel??? prolly 95% of his subs use adblock. Then there is the little fact that adblock has been trying to strong arm companies to pay them, "yeah im blocking ads, and taking away your revenue. but if you pay me this handsom sum, ill allow ads on YOUR site to get through" this has been going on for a while. its illegal, and as far as I am aware, no one has caved in and paid them. Ultimately adblock is not the answer. the only REAL answer is to leave the platform .. for everyone to pack house and leave. But as long as people with massive channels are still getting favoritism from youtube, the ...morealgorithm and the ad tiers. they will never leave.. What I am ultimately saying, is that we as creators, particularly as small creators can do LITERALLY nothing to YT.. even if every single channel under 10k subs left, it would have zero impact on youtube. the answer is to do whats best for YOU .. and that would be hit as MUCH of the maket as you can with your content. get in front of as MANY eyes as possible. and dont give up. SOMEWHERE this can be made profitable without google screwing it up.
      • [ – ] madel_schmadel parent reply I think it would be highly effective, again for the very reasons laid out. It costs money to operate YouTube; Youtube relies on ad revenue for every view to cover costs. When that revenue is denied, YouTube operates that interaction at a loss. The reality is that widespread use of ad blockers would hurt YouTube and I'm sure it would be forced to research ways to counter it. The reason it hasn't done that is that the cost of countering ad blockers at this point have outweighed the extent to which they're used, which is fairly minimal from what has been found while looking into this. But in the short to medium term, it could provide a reasonably effective tool, one of several that should be used. Large creators could direct their followers to other platforms, possibly with teaser videos with links in the description to the full video. But without dragging the bulk of mainstream (and apolitical and commercial users) to the new platform, you're really just creating a ghetto, which is perfe...morectly fine with establishment media and SJW-driven YouTube. You've become irrelevant one way or the other. But ad blocker use is something ordinary users can do today - even non-technical users like me.
        • [ – ] DerpieDoo parent reply Youtube already operates at a loss, just as AWS operates at a loss. business operate one aspect at a loss in order to make more money elsewhere. Google does this with youtube. it cost them. a LOT.. to run youtube, but its a overhead they see value in. Youtube relies on ad rev to mitigate some of that overhead, but if not a single ad ever played, ever, they would still run the service. as it serves other more important purposes to google. purposes that are FAR more valuable. (the sale of user information) As for the use of adblock, its currently sitting at around 40% .. getting 40% less of ANYTHING will crush a company. the reason it does not bother youtube, and the reason that they have not implemented the easy... let me reinforce that a moment, the EASY workaround that stops adblock from being an issue. is because they do not care, they dont care about ads. Youtube serves ONE purpose to google. collect user data.. to sale. Meanwhile, you are supporting a pi...moreece of software whos developers have a history of blackmail, Ultimatrely, I dont mean to be argumentative here, but its very clear that you do not understand the entirety of these services, systems and tools. The cost of countering adblock? its about 7 lines of code. thousands of websites already use such code. No research needed. and at the end of the day, assuming youtube crashed, and creators flocked to other platforms, such as vid.me so you REALLLY think the politics, the mainsream media, the SJWs,, the general idiocy of the platform, would just.. disappear?? NO! they would naturally move on to the next youtube.. which is this case would be vid.me By wishing youtube dead, you are wishing the vile people, the vile content, the vile mainstream media to rush over here, and turn this into youtube. (and just by lookin at some of the current people transfering over, I have to say. thumbs are starting to look awful youtubish.. vlogs are starting to get kinda... youtubey .. *shrug* at any rate.. this is not something that merits discussion. nothing anyone says or does, will ultimately change anything. Youtube will keep the views, and the market. everyone else will suffer. period.
          • [ – ] madel_schmadel parent reply I appreciate your concern to stop people form using ad blockers on YouTube because it must be pointless and therefore worth all of your energy to save us, but it's certainly a healthy part of a good strategy. And most importantly, a more aggressive posture by users who are willing to not just run away to the nearest internet ghetto but fight back and use their power as users and consumers to sway circumstances in their favor. The measure/counter measure action and reaction in the ad wars has been going on ad infinitum and will continue. We need to get started and become proactive; we have to stop looking for excuses not to or we will not only remain in the same place that we have been but continue to lose even more ground. Retreat to the ghettos and they will follow us there eventually. And someone will say, let's finally take our stand - and Derpie will be there to remind them it's hopeless.
            • [ – ] Freeboot parent reply You are consuming a paid service (YouTube) of you don't want to pay then anymore stay here on vidme and never visit YouYube again. As simple as that no AdBlocker needed.
              • madel_schmadel parent reply Why? It's our right as consumers to demand a better product. We can't force them (although socialists believe we can) but we can apply economic pressure as individually to encourage them to create a better product. Let me tell ya from history, running away to the ghetto never works. It didn't work for people trying to flee the Nazis and it doesn't work today.
    • Freeboot parent reply Agree with you generally, though I'm not really a fan of AdBlocking on YouTube. By using an Adblocker you're hurting the small creators that just need some money. YouTube/Google has enough money. If everyone just stopped using YouTube all together and supported their favorite creators on other platforms Everyone (besides YouTube) would profit. But just my opinion on this - perhaps you're right..
  • [ – ] Paul_W reply I think you made some good points. YT has been a big disappointment for sometime now. I have been saying for years that we need a viable alternative to YT. I am brand new to Vidme, but I al already liking the vibe here. We will have to see how it goes when they get the platform monetized.
  • [ – ] CountLoliDee reply I understand being a YouTube creator and wanting to make money. But because of the ad friendly rules and such you have to sacrifice time and content to appease sponsors. Which is pretty depressing. I usually watch other art related creators on YouTube. And when I click on one that says "tutorial for eyes" or something, you be like yeah I want to learn from this creator I like. Then they give you a ten minute long video on how if you want to learn to paint eyes then you should pay for an outlandish service to teach you how to do what they said they were going to do in the title. Not only are ads littering videos but companies are PAYING creators to basically be an advertisement for them to trick people. It's seriously messed up.
  • Darkmonsterccc reply YouTube is really awful. I am growing much faster over here on vidme.
  • [ – ] VanquishxTV reply Couldn't agree more! Youtube has randomly un-subbed me from some of the creators I like the most over there and now the whole ad revenue controversy. Thank goodness those that don't want to censor their own videos have places like Vidme to put those videos and options like Patreon.
    • [ – ] Freeboot parent reply I'm in the very lucky position to be financially independent. I make web video mostly because I want to. Also, I have actually earned more money (still not a lot) from people that really want to support a small creator like I am. I try to use that money to get better gear to make my videos better. And that without having a big company manipulate my viewers into liking their products.
      • VanquishxTV parent reply That is awesome to hear! I know many creators on Youtube who have taken a big hit due to the whole ad situation going on over there. And they were relying on that ad revenue. It's a bummer. I have a full time job and don't plan on quitting anytime soon. lol. So when I start creating videos it'll be because I want to and it'll be for fun.
  • [ – ] LouiseVonMontfort reply So true, after youtube messed up the comment sections making it nearly impossible to answer on comments it was really annyoing, what they are doing now with the whole censorship thing is just pure evil!
  • [ – ] zugzs reply Yeah I'm one step from doing just vidme and leaving youtube
  • TormentedAngel8 reply I really hope Youtube finally realizes their mistakes and fixes them. Despite all it's flaws it's still a good platform. But now I'm on here setting up my channel as a back up.
  • [ – ] BrianAiya reply I still love and care about YT but I am currently a vidme exclusive creator because I faced many issues in YT. As you said, maybe all these drama is temporary in YT however the longer they take to solve these problems the faster vidme will grow. The vidme community is very hard to find in YT so i am sticking to this place.
  • [ – ] UnarmoredForce reply I don't really wish anything bad to youtube, but it is a bit aggravating when things change without letting anyone know. Having high hopes for vidme though, this site feels nice.
    • Freeboot parent reply I'm not really wishing anything bad on them either.. it's just that I am currently very disappointed and I think that vidme and YouTube will be for different styles of content / community in the future.
  • [ – ] bononoz1 reply YouTube is nothing but the incarnation of corporate greed.
    • [ – ] Freeboot parent reply Sadly, ever since Google bought them this has become the case..
      • [ – ] bononoz1 parent reply Yep, though I would say that the turning point with what I said earlier was when google + was integrated with YouTube.
        • [ – ] Freeboot parent reply Well I still remember YouTube being a big family of creators helping each other out. All I see now is PC content in the front and beef/hate behind the scenes.
          • bononoz1 parent reply Yeah, I remember not being disliked to shit with my crappy home videos that I used to upload a while back, but I definitely like the fact that people like our stuff that we upload here on vid.me!
  • MysticSword reply I'm still somewhat new here on VidMe, but I'm loving it so far. It feels like my new home already. :)
  • Gavinotts reply If only you knew how myself and others content creditors of wrestling then youll see our point of view they dont let us makes us alot of money and worse of all dont let us show the true amount watching our videos
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