response: Climate Change: What's So Alarming?

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  • ClimatePonziLie reply Fresh water will change into Ice at a higher Temperature than will salt water change into Ice. The added salt makes the oceans resist the process of becoming ICE. So the temperature needs to drop even more before ocean water will form into ice. If it's that cold then there isn't much melting land ice. The water flowing off the land is too hot to freeze when it enters the ocean and if you add salt to it then it's even more above the freezing point. https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=1598
  • ClimatePonziLie reply This is where all the Climate Change alarmist nonsense came from. This is the next great PONZI Scheme to steal our money with a CO2 TAX. It's has the potential to make the Federal Reserve Banking 20 trillion debt look like nothing in comparison. Al Gore's Beachfront Property Proves Global Warming is a Lie watch?v=3AA19sublTY _____ Also David Suzuki co-owns BC island property with oil company It must be that neither one of them didn't get the message that the oceans will rise.
  • ClimatePonziLie reply This is not the first Drought in history, surprise the Drought is over in California. Don't forget the drought in the bible that sent the Jews to live in Egypt. Increasing the cost of Energy will kill people that can't pay for it. Like the people in the Third World. Why did they build the dams in California in the first place because there were droughts. This last drought lasted long enough that they needed to restrict water use they should have taken the opportunity to increase their ability to hold more water. But they didn't and now that it has rained the opportunity has been lost. There were many large floods in California in the past. The Great Flood of 1862 was the largest flood in the recorded history of Oregon, Nevada, and California, occurring from December 1861 to January 1862. The Globalist will try to turn this into an opportunity to push their PONZI Scheme of Climate Change. Remember there dams are huge they were sized a hundred years ago, knowing that there are these vari...moreations in the weather. The dust bowl of the 30's lasted 10 years. This was before the height of the industrial revolution that man was to have cause the Climate Change nonsense.
  • ClimatePonziLie reply The fact is that the Ancient Roman sea ports are not under water. Facts and History VS. the Climate Change PONZI SCHEME to TAX the population. The earth temperatures were several degrees {WARMER} in the Medieval period. They weren't fighting to get food and still have energy to build the grand cathedrals of Europe. There was plenty of food because the climate permitted them extra food production. Many of the Roman sea ports are still in the same locations. So the ocean didn't displace them from the evidence. Imperial Rome's Great Ancient Seaport City, Both WW1 and WW2 were before the big industrial revolution and the world was in a {cold} period and the Global CO2 was at an all time low. Below 150 ppm, plant-life dies off on a massive scale - See more at: http://notrickszone.com/2013/05/17/atmospheric-co2-concentrations-at-400-ppm-are-still-dangerously-low-for-life-on-earth/#sthash.apyxCIsM.dpuf Just 30 less ppm of CO2 and the Earth would have been dead. Yes that is the cutoff point a...moreround 280 ppm of CO2 and plants die. The Middle Ages or Medieval Period lasted from the 5th to the 15th century. The Dust Bowl of the 1930s, sometimes referred to as the "Dirty Thirties” lasted about a decade. They didn't have significant accumulations of rain and the earth was much {COOLER}. The Graphs that the IPPC are manipulated to start in the {cold) and leave out the previous {warm} Medieval era, the truth is the earth is still in a {Cold} era it just not as cold as it could be, CO2 in the air only serves to take money out of your pocket and into the pockets of the Globalist.
  • [ – ] ClimatePonziLie reply Fresh water Freeze at a higher temperature than salted water, to melt ice they put salt on the roads. It changes the freezing point of the water. OK so why is it snowing so much on the old Ice and then the fresh salt free snow must be melting the ice because there is no salt in it should be part of your theory.
    • [ – ] iamli3 parent reply >OK so why is it snowing so much on the old uh what do you mean old ice?.... >the fresh salt free snow must be melting the ice because there is no salt in it should be part of your theory. um no that's not how that works... >The fact is that the Ancient Roman sea ports are not under water. i never said they were? >The earth temperatures were several degrees {WARMER} in the Medieval period. we're warmer than that time period now , but that was a stable warmer temp not a runaway greenhouse effect that we currently have.... >Both WW1 and WW2 were before the big industrial revolution uh you mean after , ind rev was during the 1800s.... >Just 30 less ppm of CO2 and the Earth would have been dead. k great im not arguing in favor of reducing atmospheric c02 to non existent levels so the life cycle of the planet breaks...
      • [ – ] ClimatePonziLie parent reply The frozen ice is already salt free and colder than the snow so more fresh water falling on it doesn't melt it the ICE is getting thicker on the land portion of green land. Most of the Ancient sea ports are now above the ocean just proves the ocean level has dropped disproving the rising ocean myth it just going back to it's original height. There was not ICE on Greenland at all during the Medieval period, so it stands to reason it was much warmer than it is now because there is still ICE on the land mass of Greenland. Yes the plants a suffocations and until we raise the CO2 levels to a level the entire planet is in danger.
        • [ – ] iamli3 parent reply >The frozen ice is already salt free no there is such a thing as forzen ocean salt water >the ICE is getting thicker on the land portion of green land. it demonstrably is not , global ice volume and extent is now plummeting to new record lows get up to date with current front line science data , i don't have time to deal with all of this im going to be working so just go watch my world is doomed video for more info on that.....
          • [ – ] ClimatePonziLie parent reply The lands sea ICE is getting thicker every year despite your claim it isn't. The ocean sea ICE many have melted some what in the North But it has grown in the Antarctic. The Ice on the land is salt free. The ocean Ice will always melt first as it has salt in it. Greenland use to be ICE free 1000 years ago. Heat Warm, Melted ICE, Climate Change 1000 years ago the Global ICE AGE destroyed the world. Now hopefully the world can warm and repair the damage of the last ICE AGE.
            • [ – ] iamli3 parent reply and i already stated why the ice extent in the antarctic grew - because of the melting freshwater - but it's volume is in a continual downward spiral.... >Greenland use to be ICE free 1000 years ago. Heat Warm, Melted ICE, Climate Change 1000 years ago the Global ICE AGE destroyed the world. .....i don't have time or the care to correct so many inaccuracies about your world and it's history , the last ice age was 12,000 years ago ffs i've been wondering since i first read your comment if you're just another shill , im leaning more to yes with every reply.....
              • [ – ] ClimatePonziLie parent reply There was a min ICE age after the Medieval period around the time of Charles Dickens so to start any climate model Graph there only proves that the earth isn't as cold as it use to be. It does nothing to disprove fact that the Earth was warmer before these cold periods. Start your graph in the middle of the Medieval warm period, and it will prove that the Earth is still in a Mini ICE AGE. Now your claim that the fresh water that melted off the land is refreezing, Nonsense the entropy required to melt the fresh water is too high to remain in ICE form, add some salt to this water will further add to this. For sea ice to form the temperature has to be colder than what is required to form ICE on land. Ocean water freezes just like freshwater, but at lower temperatures. Fresh water freezes at 32 degrees Fahrenheit but seawater freezes at about 28.4 degrees Fahrenheit , because of the salt in it. When seawater freezes, however, the ice contains very little salt because only the water part...more freezes. By adding more water to the ice the overall entropy of the ICE has to increase. Bringing the entire mass closer to the melting point. Basic Thermodynamics and Chemistry and empirical observations and experiments that any high school student can do will prove water on ICE melts the ICE. Children do this every day when they pour soda over ICE CUBES. It doesn't freeze and turn the container into a huge soda popsicle.
                • [ – ] iamli3 parent reply i don't care about your notions of a mini ice age.... >Now your claim that the fresh water that melted off the land is refreezing, Nonsense the entropy required to melt the fresh water is too high to remain in ICE form, not sure you know what entropy means but there's noting nonsensical about my statement.... >For sea ice to form the temperature has to be colder than what is required to form ICE on land. thank you for agreeing with me... >Ocean water freezes just like freshwater, but at lower temperatures. Fresh water freezes at 32 degrees Fahrenheit but seawater freezes at about 28.4 degrees Fahrenheit thank you for agreeing with me again? i had half a mind to think that you're just some shill , but you're so strange in your comments idk what you are...
                  • [ – ] ClimatePonziLie parent reply Water flowing over ICE a (liquid) has to be at or just over 32 Deg.F. Does it Refreeze when it flows into a ocean full of ICE or does it stay a liquid. The fresh water entering the ocean is 3.6 Deg ABOVE 28.4 Degrees that is required to turn ocean water into ice. Where the fresh water entering the ocean it creates a heat bubble at the immediate entry point into the ocean. Does this 3.4 deg. F have enough excess heat to give the fresh water adequate time to accumulate salt from the ocean water or does it refreeze upon entry into the ocean. What factors would determine the results a person should expect to observe. What if the heat of the bubble is quickly dissipated by churning ocean water, that would also quickly mix salt into the fresh water also, as a result. There isn't enough salt in the ocean, even the Amazon water becomes salty when it enters the ocean. What if the ocean water was extremely cold? Causing the heat bubble to dissipate a lot quicker resulting in a dramatic reducti...moreon in the size in the heat bubble created by the fresh water entering the ocean. The entry point may be smaller but it still has enough heat to cut a channel through the ocean ice and remain a liquid as it moves below the ice above it. Water doesn't act differently in the Antarctic than any where else on the planet. The spring run off fresh water entering a river cuts a hole through the ice and then continues to flow under the ice, even without the benefit of added salt.
                    • [ – ] iamli3 parent reply k so what's your objection at this point?...
                      • [ – ] ClimatePonziLie parent reply My objection is In the first 30 seconds of your video your saying that fresh water entering the Ocean is the cause of increased Ocean Ice. If it cold enough to form Ocean Ice at 28.4 then it about 3.6 Degrees below the melting temp of 32 deg. F. When it's cold enough to turn Ocean water into Ice it's too cold to melt Ice on the land. I will rephrase it another way. If it warm enough to melt Ice on the land it's warm enough to melt the Ice on the Ocean. Ocean Ice and sea Ice have the same melting point 32 deg. F as they are both fresh water in the form of Ice. When Ocean Ice forms it drops most of it's salt. That makes the Ocean have a higher concentration of salt that goes back into solution when the Ice melts. I applaud you in that your ONE of the few people that even bring up the question of Geo Engineering when talking about Climate Change. To suggest that there may be a connection. That would make you a conspiracy theory Climate Change activist. Next you might be suggesting that...more chemtrails are the cause of changing weather patterns around the planet and that there dropping tons of pollution everyday.
                        • iamli3 parent reply "The effect of the intensifying winds is coupled with a massive dump of cold, fresh water into the Ross Sea from the Pine Island glacier. This water, which floats on the surface, is less dense, colder and freezes more easily than the sea water below, and when it is struck by storm winds from the continent it forms ice floes." https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/oct/09/why-is-antarctic-sea-ice-at-record-levels-despite-global-warming >I will rephrase it another way. If it warm enough to melt Ice on the land it's warm enough to melt the Ice on the Ocean. entirely different systems therefor not applicable unless you have studies to link to... >Next you might be suggesting that chemtrails are the cause of changing weather patterns around the planet and that there dropping tons of pollution everyday. i use the science terms not those conspiracy therms , to watch my newest video and my other videos to see more on geoengineering....
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