The Future of VidMe (This Will Get Me Views Right?)

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  • [ – ] Rawman reply Can I get some views?!? I think the future of vidme is not a good one if they keep going this way. We need to know what's going on. The audience needs to know what's going on. Big YouTubers come here. Don't know what's going on...and go. If vidme could get ads... They would get ads! If computing forever etc could get the same money per view from ads here they would be dedicated! I don't think vidme could get ads. Prove to us you can and I'll believe it. Until then I don't believe it... #Receipts #GetANewOutro
  • [ – ] theoldsparrow reply I just had a thought about analytics. Is it possible that not only due to the complexity but the already existing Intellectual Property it's like walking through a minefield trying to code a youtube like analytics? They can't make it exactly like youtube because it could get them sued into oblivion. I agree that we need analytics to pitch to companies looking to advertise probably at a big discount in comparison to adsense. It would also make subscriptions more valuable increasing demand to support the creators users like. Just my two cents.
    • [ – ] CrazyRocky parent reply Very fuckin valid point sparrow never even thought of that when it came to analytics (I assumed thats why they have a hard time updating the app though)
      • [ – ] theoldsparrow parent reply Another thing about code is the Intellectual Property falls under copyright rather than a patent. Something I disagree with a lot. Basically you're taking words and inventing digital machines so I think it should fall under a patent classification. To contrast the two when a drug company patents something they have ten years to sell it before another company can copy the formula or get it as close as possible. Mainly due to Disney copyright has been extended and extended to the point where the Intellectual Property has to be 95 years after the publication, 120 years since creation, or life of the author plus 70 year, whichever is shortest, to be able to be copied. That's what code falls under. 10 years to 120 years. I feel like it stifles creation which is why the open source code movement is important.
        • [ – ] BillMiller parent reply As someone who deals with copyright a lot, I think copyright terms are far too long. Anything I compose should be public domain after I die....dead men can't make money, after all. I believe for instances where there's a pre-mature death that the copyright duration should extend for 15 years past death so that the estate can at least be taken care of. I agree that the copyright law that's currently on the books stifles creativity and innovation. That said, you can't copyright ideas, so Vid.me can make an analytics page if they so desire. They just can't use the exact same code to do it.
          • [ – ] theoldsparrow parent reply The problem is the litigation industry. If the code is even suspected to be similar then it can go to court or usually to a settlement that I think may be too much for vidme to handle. They can also fight it but even that is a long and costly process. They may be different enough to win but they would need enough liquidity to fight it. Would be an easy way for a big company to squash a smaller up and comer. Tell me if I'm talking out of my ass here because I'm just an interested layman.
            • BillMiller parent reply No, your views are spot on. It's a dicey situation, but one that can be adequately navigated with an excellent legal team. Courts as of late have rewarded court costs to the defendant in cases of fraudulent or misleading lawsuits. Fortunately, in the case of analytic systems, most video sharing platforms have one such system. Vimeo comes to mind, as well as DailyMotion. Introducing one on Vid.me doesn't seem too out of the realm of plausibility. :)
  • FreshSocksFox reply I just think people are complaining a bit too quickly. Vidme is improving a little at a time. They don't have a huge company like youtube and I don't mind that. If people can't just wait and patient, then they can go back to toxic youtube.
  • [ – ] MatthewHoltz reply I think the fear of the unknown is freaking everybody out more so than the problems we are seeing now.
  • [ – ] HeroicVillain reply Here are some things that vid.me has going for it that Youtube never - and I DO mean NEVER - had going for it. One thing is the obvious, sensible moderating. Youtube has NEVER been sensible. You can go on there right now and I bet there's dark corners with stuff that borders on (or is outright) illegal, and I'm not talking about pirated movies, yet if you have a millisecond of a clip of someone else's content, you have to go through Hell's red tape to get your video and/or monetization back. Another thing they have going for them is the indie-grassroots feel. Along those same likes, they've marketed the franchise MUCH better than Youtube ever did. Youtube HAS no personality and their logo is just a stupid play button...vid.me has an actual mascot. In addition to that, vid.me actually creates content along with everyone else, real earthy stuff like any of us would do (COMEDY FOR CRYING OUT LOUD), and it's actually kinda good. I think Youtube has some BS announcement channel, but...more as I said it's BS and sterile and it's like watching a White House Press Release and frankly it kinda pisses me off cause they take themselves WAY too seriously. We ACTUALLY KNOW who vid.me is. Whether you think they handle every situation exactly right or not, they're HUMAN and you can actually get a HUMAN response from them (except me, they only respond to me when I'm being a good boy, but that's beside the point). They have nurtured the sense of community and that was not only a decent thing to do, it was also smart. Last but not least, I personally appreciate them for not slapping me with warnings left and right for my comment antics, I can't tell you how many websites I've been to that would have banned me long ago without even looking into things or talking to me, but I'd like to think they can tell a toad suffering from PYTTSD (Post Youtube Traumatic Stress Syndrome) who's just trying to communicate his thoughts and well-wishes the only safe way he knows how when they see him. I realize the team has made some mistakes and we may not agree with everything they do, but again THEY'RE HUMAN. Thanks guys at vid.me and thanks CrazyRocky you really do add a lot to this community. - The Villain
    • CrazyRocky parent reply Thanks for the compliment, and I totally agree. They are human whether you like their choices or not atleast we don't get a computer telling us to fuck off when we email them or try to contact them. Also they watch the content on their site and they really try their hardest to listen to the community. Also I think we are all kinda trolls here, and the CrazyRocky channel is all one big troll so you'll always be welcome bb ❤. Thanks for the input man very interesting to read
  • [ – ] MarzieMalfoy reply **To help ya out for your equipment.
  • SubZeroAppleSauce reply I gotta say when these kinds of discussions come up, I get concerned. Not just for vidme, but for online video in general. What would happen to it if YouTube and vidme both went under? And if online video disappeared, what would replace it?
  • [ – ] rebeledgeentertainment reply We have to be patient as content creators. The only way Vidme fails is if they do what YouTube did and hire a 3rd wave feminist to lead them into the future. Marketing will be key for Vidme but I agree Twitter is important to helping grow not only Vidme but the creators channel. If you do what you love and make money doing it that doesn't make you a bad person nor something that should be deemed as a bad thing. Analytics will be huge because it shows what you said "watch time and how we can improve". The only way monetization is bad is when advertisers dectiate a creators or companies direction.
  • BrianAiya reply Yes! the Market decides which product/ service survives or not, but i love that Vidme is growing organically, that's a great sign. We are on the same boat for being vidme exclusive and putting a lot of faith in here, but it's smart to use twitter and other social media sites too. Tbh, i like this chill talking videos you upload(atleast once a month) ;)
  • The_Z_Files reply I'm not one to say make a whole video on "the future" or "vidme blah blah" mainly because opinions grow on trees....and bushes...and weeds, they are everywhere but my minor 2 cents is putting faith is cool but just going with the flow is smart. Short example is 4 years ago I was HEAVY involved in the pre-launch community of the MMO wildstar, it was the most cohesive-fun and tight knit groups I've ever seen, multiple podcasts,people invited on them all the time, dozens of full forums on fansites, roleplay sites, contests, and even a dj website chatroom where we would get the devs and my now good friend the musical composer to come in and music battle and just talk about random stuff and game stuff,many of us contributing names to items and even getting npcs or gear named after our online personas. Everything was hype-hope-love-and fun. I even ran a blog/moderated a Reddit/modded multiple live podcasts and did fan interviews. Now I barely know 5 people who still play from that group,and ...moreit's not dead as plenty play but the community did die sadly. This isn't a warning just an example of highs...to lows in stuff. I just say everyone stay true, supportive no matter what and wait and see!
  • [ – ] whako reply You get all the views Rocky xD! What I like about Vidme is it is still growing and such and I feel it will only get bigger and better as time goes on.
  • [ – ] AmandaFood reply I agree on analytics I only watched 10% of your video you deserve to know that lol we should know how long and when our audience drops off to fix it. Tips and subscriptions to me seemed like a start in the right direction yet not a big enough audience but I haven't been here long (or create) too much to really say how much it's grown. I found out about Vid.me on Youtube it was one of your videos so thanks, I don't think I ever told you that.
    • CrazyRocky parent reply Yea subs and tips was definitely a good start, but as you said the audiences arent big enough for that yet. Also yea I wanna know if people watch my intro and leave right away lol. Also really??? Wow I didnt think anyone saw that video!
  • [ – ] Trust_Nasty reply I agree 100% this is the Most Thought out future of Vidme video I've seen so far
  • [ – ] TheCynicalCypher reply Honestly, this one is tough. Monetization, the only other thing I can think of that would help there are ads. And while I personally don't find issue with ads themselves, the issue lies from this whole "ad-friendly" thing, as well as copyright. Maybe there could be a system where only approved advertisers could advertise on Vidme that won't screw with anything, knowing full well that their ads will be placed alongside (I'd assume) verified content. I also really would like analytics on Vidme. I know there's a third-party source, but having reliable integration is more what I'd like. If Vidme is going to grow, I feel like it needs to have a higher instinctive for creators to join and stay than what YT offers. Otherwise, the growth for the platform in the future could be more difficult. Nonetheless, I love this platform because of the outstanding community and team behind it.
    • [ – ] CrazyRocky parent reply I have the same problem because I don't have the answer of how to monetize, I just know it needs to be done
      • HeroicVillain parent reply I don't disagree with you. Viewers will choose who succeeds and the views will in turn help them to make better content (which they will do if they are in it for the love of doing it). Basically everything you said in your video.
      • GeneralTiberiusxX parent reply To be completely honest it's going to depend heavily on what's is going on with YouTube if the problems on YouTube continue Vidme will grow more
  • CrazyRocky reply Mostly a rambling video
  • Ghawk reply I moved from videos on YouTube, to videos on Vidme. I feel that there is less pressure to make vidme videos to keep your channel afloat as opposed to YouTube.
  • JunglesBongles reply lose the idiotic splash screen. also make back button go to same place instead of reset page. thanks.
  • Trap_Luverz reply Great video.
  • Dos_Gaming reply Wtf! You got $50 out of his? And you basically copied me! Screw reality!
  • CloudKnight reply so this is how we cash in on vid me ? hold up let me write up a 5 min rant about vid me real quick.
  • ShaxxUK reply MarzieMalfoy with that $50 tip. Also you should try OBS when you record. Very good.
  • CrazyJoeWurst37 reply Same here don't make much money bro
  • FXWLL reply I totally agree with this. I am not Vidme exclusive because this is still a small platform but the bigger it gets the more creators like me become exclusive to the platform. bringing big YouTubers here is a good thing for sure and helps make it possible to go exclusive on the platform
  • Brologic_Productions reply One analytic, or even just a feature i'd like to see is what part of the video did some one upvote or comment (like a time stamp). Might deter people from spam upvoting.
  • mancave_tv reply Totally agree with the analytics, I don't like how YouTube montizes videos and vidme is ok but needs improvement on that😀
  • [ – ] DrunkenLeprechaun reply Iv literally just started man so this was quite informational thanks all I can say is I will try my best and hope people enjoy the content I make but keep up the good vids man :)
  • lambdog76 reply For real though, the community topics aren't what I would necessarily call Band Wagon Issues, but rather inspired content. Things are still small enough on here that people care, and a subject one cares about spurs creativity. Now, that being said, if we just start seeing shit parroted around in a circle jerk, like we see with top tear youtubers when they are off there format, then we can declare in unison (not the pasty youtuber guy, but altogether) " get off the bandwagon you fucking lemmings! "
  • [ – ] SonicMcPatriotic reply I think because of YouTube turning on their creators, the creators are migrating here some are huge channels with thousands upon thousands of followers. I think Vidme is going to blow up big time very quickly.
    • [ – ] CrazyRocky parent reply Well creators with large following have migrated here and it has helped but a lot of us creators over here fully believe we don't "need"thr youtubers theyre just nice to have around
      • SonicMcPatriotic parent reply Forgive me if I misunderstood your comment. It seems like a back handed attempt at patronizing, but I could be misunderstanding the intent completely.
      • SonicMcPatriotic parent reply CrazyRocky - Need for what? It is a video sharing site open to the public. It's not a exclusive club. Already established channels here and their "need" or lack of need, is no concern to Youtuber migrating here. "there just nice to have around"? Don't act like you own the internet, and migrating Youtubers are just some sort of thing like a pet that is nice to have around. Your patronizing attitude, is insulting and immature.
  • [ – ] MFKraven reply i agree, we need to entice Youtubers with some fuck money, and if we get a few bucks here and there great for us!
    • [ – ] SonicMcPatriotic parent reply MFKraven - I hope this isn't the consensus of most creators that are already here. Just because you were here longer doesn't mean you own the place, and there is no need to be rude because Youtubers are migrating here.
      • [ – ] MFKraven parent reply @SonicMcPatriotic you might wanna read my comment again m8. I'll simplify it for you, OFFER Youtubers a reason to come over to Vidme i.e. Money. whether it be through ads, or sponsorships. I'm all about growing together.
        • SonicMcPatriotic parent reply I'm sorry. I really shouldn't comment sometimes. I didn't feel well today, so I was in a funk. I am normally a nice person, and don't lie to hurt people. I guess my grumpy mood was reflected in my comment. You did nothing to deserve that.
  • lambdog76 reply Strike while the iron is hot shun! Next up, the future of bandwagon videoooooooos!!!!!!!!
  • [ – ] MrJoelDee reply Personally, I don't care about watch time. One of the things I have loved about Vidme so far, at least as far as I know, is that unlike YouTube, they don't require you to watch a video for a certain amount of time for it to count as a view. I get that YT did that because most people had monetization on their videos and I guess advertisers don't want their ads to be placed on a channel where most of that person's videos may only be watched for a few seconds each, but to me, it was still very annoying. I personally believe, even though I'm not about numbers, every view should count. Whether it's for 2 seconds or 2 minutes or the whole video.
    • [ – ] CrazyRocky parent reply I see your point, but my problem is I want to see how long people are watching my videos so I know if they can be made better or not. For example lets say people always click off straight away during the intro, then I know maybe I have a shitty intro. Its great to get 1k views but if only 20 people watched all the way through the vid that big number means nothin ya know
      • [ – ] MrJoelDee parent reply I understand what your saying buddy, totally. And please know I'm not arguing about it at all. I just personally don't like it, but if it were implemented, I wouldn't argue against it or complain about it or anything.
        • [ – ] CrazyRocky parent reply Oh yea not tryna argue just havin a discussion ❤
          • MrJoelDee parent reply CrazyRocky, I'll try to explain my stance a little better just so I'm not trying to sound like quantity over quality. As I mentioned earlier, my biggest thing with YouTube and how long someone watched a video was because if someone didn't watch for a certain amount of time, then that view didn't count, and you didn't get any money for that view if you had monetization on your videos, plus, you had to make a minimum of $100 to even get paid anything in the first place and that equaled out to needing about 1,000 views per day, watching enough of any video to count, to maintain that $100 so you would continue to get paid, or at least that's the way I understood it. I equate that to recording audiobooks, which I also do from time to time in my very limited spare time. With ACX, the amazon company that I record through, you can either do a royalty share on the book you record, or charge a flat out per finished hour fee. If you do royalty share, you and the author split the total sales of th...moree book each month 50/50. Once you read the fine print, you find out the author actually only gets 40% of the profit, so you are actually splitting that, which equals 20% each, not very much. Plus you have to reach a $10 minimum in sales before you get paid anything, which I have done more than once. With per finished hour you can be paid anywhere from $25-$1,000 per finished hour depending on the length of the book and there's no minimum in sales you have to meet there. Well I did royalty share for awhile until I realized hey, if the book doesn't sell well enough to reach that $10 minimum, then all that hard work I put in, I'm not getting paid for. BTW, I don't do royalty share anymore because of this. On average for every 10-15 minutes of recorded audio, you're looking at 30-45 minutes worth of editing time; taking out major breaths, adding processing, etc. Videos, to me, are the same way, if people aren't watching long enough to pay me enough to reach that $100 mark, then I'm not getting paid for all the hard work I put into it. Now, lemme say here, that I'm not in this for the money or any fame. I wasn't on YouTube either, I just did monetization on there because it just seemed the thing to do. If we had a way to see how long people are watching our videos, if it's just to see, I have no problem at all with that. If they would have to watch for a certain amount of time to be paid anything, then that's where my problem comes, because good or bad, you worked hard on your video and are essentially getting cheated out of money. Now if they wanted to implement a staggered pay based on views somehow, then I wouldn't have a problem with it because then no matter how much or how little someone watches, you're at least getting something for your hard work. Let's say they get advertisers who are willing to pay $1 per view for watching an entire video and go down from there. i.e., if they watch half the video, you get 50 cents, and on down from there to the point that if they watch a couple seconds or so, you still get 10 to 20 cents for that view, because even small change will add up over time. Plus,there's no minimum amount to reach before getting paid. Like with the royalty share on the books, I never thought it was right I had to reach a $10 limit to get paid after putting all that hard work in. Even if I only made one cent that month, it should have been put in my bank account, because I worked hard and earned it. Same with videos, even if you only made 10 or even 50 cents in one month, then you worked hard on a video to make even that, so it should go straight to your bank account without having to meet a minimum dollar amount. That's just my way of thinking. Maybe totally wack, and sorry this was so long, but wanted to break it down as best as I could lol. Hope I didn't make it more confusing.
  • [ – ] SamEarl13 reply Nice video and good points. Related to the lack of advertisement would be the lack of integration in other sites, for example WordPress has the ability to embed YouTube videos built in and easy to use while embedding a VidMe video would need changes to a file (that I'm not sure a free users even have access too).
  • [ – ] JustHypeVibe reply I agree. Anything can happen but I'm sure that The Vidme Team have some stored plans if anything goes bad. Because Vidme is a dream to all Content Creators to share their videos in the internet. And once it is gone it becomes a huge disappointment to all Vidizens.
  • [ – ] adamdauria reply Totally agree with the video and great video!
  • [ – ] linktheinformer reply Hey, different Overwatch footage for a change! Nice. VidMe needs to pay for some ads up on Reddit, Google and stuff. They need to.
  • [ – ] Kentantino reply We need to get this number one come in guys. XD and rocky the thumbnail was supposed to just black.
  • JustLife reply Not only did you get views but you got tips! ;)
  • BillMiller reply Honestly, with a good SEO and strategic social media/advertising, any channel has the potential to do well when partnered with high-quality content. Vid.me is still young, but I see it going places. I agree with your changes recommendations. Have you mentioned these on the Reddit?
  • AnimangaNation493 reply I agree vidme future is unknown but so is YouTube's I think YouTube will become become part of the main stream Media . and will lose it luster quickly as for vidme . we creators have a great opportunity to be on a site in its 🚼 sage . if we work hard we can become the new faces of independent media .
  • Behind-the-Mask reply The future is VIdme, i agree with you that's why i started to work on vid.me.
  • RandomShyte reply Vidme's growth will dry up if they keep kissing the asses of well known youtube. People are being turned down for verification do to it. New creators will just stop or just copy Youtube and Vidme should stop trying to be yt, Vidme should be Vidme, be the best fuck the rest
  • jasonlee3071 reply Good point made. You can't rely totally on one website alone. It could fold up tomorrow for all you know. But yes Vidme could benefit from further promotion. Is Vidme on facebook, twitter and google? That alone won't help but it's a few steps in the right direction. Perhaps sharing our videos on other websites might help? That could be a means of advertising or promoting.
  • [ – ] GeneralTiberiusxX reply I wouldn't be too sure about that YouTube is kind of failing right now but I do have to agree with you it's unknown what the future is it could be good or bad but I believe it might be a good one depending on the situation on YouTube if things continue to go bad on YouTube YouTube will go out of business vidme could be the one that replaces YouTube
    • GeneralTiberiusxX parent reply It will be a very long time however before Vidme can be a big videos sharing perform like YouTube it's still too young it's a baby YouTube
  • JonLayman reply I've heard a lot of great things, let's hope for the best!
  • MrKnoxious reply Worst case scenario, Vidme fails and dies _but_ you can keep building up your audience here and if Vidme _does_ fail, you could move to YouTube, which will likely still be successful, and then keep going on YouTube with your little boost.
  • AxxL_Afriku reply "The TRUE future of Vidme" airing tomorrow on my fucking channel. (First self-promotion comment of my career but it's okay because this is my yard now!)
  • Smiless reply You gotta get rid of the "freeintros.com" intro thing, really turns people off when they see that
  • [ – ] VictorSavelle reply Wait... So THIS is what I have to do to get views? 😇 I thought the fidget spinner and f4f was enough.. 😜😜
  • ViciousMarine reply NIce info !!!!
  • [ – ] pauluch23 reply hey eu falo portugues e não inglesh
  • elite1 reply I agree. With some changes vid me could be absolutely enormous. So far I love the vid me community and team. But, like you said. They need to advertise and start to monetize videos!
  • [ – ] Brettkeanevideo reply I have no faith in youtube or vidme. I have faith in myself and God. I expect video sites to make it simple for me to advertise my stuff. If you want to make it big you have to do all the work. Vidme and YouTube only care when you're rich and popular. Just like high school. You do the work and you might get lucky.
  • [ – ] Iannis_Hour reply PUT DA FUCKING GAMEPLAY MUTE
  • [ – ] MarzieMalfoy reply Yeah, you can't go into something believing it is 100% guaranteed. Nothing in life is guaranteed except for death and taxes. I agree with having ads on videos as long as we don't have to do "ad-friendly" content because I'm not going to stop cursing for anybody. #praisebetorocky #forsure #getrockysomeviews
  • Jmusic-singerandsongwriter reply great channel and nice game
  • GamingUnwind reply Yeah I was hesitant to start moving over to vidme, but I am just doing dual uploads for now. It could be huge as long as they keep using YouTube's history as a road map of what to do and what not to do.
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