It's Not An Algorithm, It's a Blacklist (And I'm On It)

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  • [ – ] ThePhantom reply FUCK Google. They need a healthy dose of bankruptcy.
  • [ – ] Menexus reply I have 2 youtube accounts, one I never use. When I started noticing some of my comments were being shadowbanned from the public, I started testing the AI. About half my comments are regularly instantly shadowed, but when I use my second account to leave a comment, it always appears, no matter how vile the comment is. I feel like they've isolated certain users and imposed higher restrictions on what we're allowed to say compared to those who parrot an approved narrative.
    • Menexus parent reply Edit, my second account is not subscribed to anyone, so he's right in saying they might also censor people based on their affiliations... the Shives treatment perse.
  • [ – ] OutsideTheCircle reply Already followed you here to vid.me. Once over 60% over my subs move here or Minds I'm just going to close my YouTube account. It was a fun ride (been on it since '06) but if random nobodies like me cant even leave a comment then why bother?
    • [ – ] Nicodemous52 parent reply I didn't shut down my account, but I did unsub from everything and I don't plan on being a regular anymore. I started weening myself off of YouTube a couple of weeks before they announced this coming limited state bs. I also started my account in '06, but I was never a content creator. Just a guy that had replaced TV with YouTube.
      • OutsideTheCircle parent reply Same here. It's really hard to go back to TV when all the best stuff is online now anyway. Hopefully we'll say the same thing about YT in a few years. Hard to go back when all the best channels are on vid.me.
  • TheGamingCentaur reply This makes me worried about the future of the internet as a whole, and the future of small upstarting content creators like myself. It creates this fear of being censored for stating an opinion/criticism, and I hate it so fucking much. Stuff like this is only going to make the divide between the parties even worse when I just want there to be the calmer side of them to be more prominent. More and more I find myself agreeing with Dishonored Wolf's video "JK Rouling and The Left vs The Right" It just sickens me how worse it keeps getting. Just give everyone a voice, fuck your political views being shoved into everyone's throat, and just give people all of the facts and opinions. Stop fucking censoring everything like a kid with a sledgehammer on a sugar rush.
  • ChadMedia reply Fuck Youtube at this point. They went all in with SJWs and they will soon suffer the consequences of censorship and blacklisting to further an agenda.
  • JonTheBemused reply #GoogleAreEvil
  • knowitalltoknownothing reply I welcome this shit. The sooner people bail on Youtube and stop using google, the sooner it all becomes apparent that Google is sacrificing profit for political correctness. Either the shareholders will fire the CEO and change this or they'll confirm it and watch that share price drop like a fucking rock. They deserve it.
  • DynastyStar reply Its shit like this that I came over to Vidme for.
  • Auceza reply It's a manhunt. Surprise, surprise. The Google SJW Ph.D. is too stupid to devolop a sophisticated algorithm.
  • [ – ] SamEarl13 reply So the whole time the 'algorithm' was just an excuse to say "the AI/Computers did it", didn't know they could be disgusting in so many ways at the same time.
    • Razzoriel parent reply "The algorithms did it" is a fun way of saying "we hired someone to code an algorithm the way we wanted, and is working as expected".
  • elgabowsky reply If you have ever seen the automatic subtitles generated by yt you know that speech to text recognition is still in it's infancy. Even If you're manually added to a blacklist, it's still in the interest of creating a bot to do this. They'll probably use the complaints they'll receive as a way to fine-tune it as well. They're looking for traits that identify you for wrongthink, and I'm sure that not only association to other channels (which is the birth of the pagerank algorithm back in the day), but past videos as well. My guess is there is a ranking of "naughtyness" somewhere, and you're high on it.
  • Deadjosey reply My videos are being flagged for inappropriate content I make comic dubs that are vanilla at best if I do cuss in a comic its usually one word and sometimes there is no cussing at all the youtube algorithm is broken as hell.
  • [ – ] Gazeth_Sonica reply .. and thats why i watch you on vidme and unsubbed on youtube.
    • Dapperchap parent reply I'm still subbed just so I can get some warnings. Only because i'm waiting for the mass exodus to occur. Too many are moving too slowly on this opportunity to signal discontent to youtube and google or to strengthen this platform!
    • TwoCatsYelling parent reply I've closed all my google accounts and will only watch videos there now that I can't find elsewhere. Done with their nonsense.
  • Gelbfur reply Liberals have to use censorship and blacklists BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEIR ARGUMENT IS SHIT
  • yourvagismysafespace reply Don't call it a "black list" or you'll get snagged for racist behavior.
  • RoboLynx reply I'm sure @ComputingForever would find this very interesting.
  • VarietyGamer reply Fucking google, we're with you 100% Razor. This is a bleak time but we will get through it.
  • guild_of_fools reply Just made the jump to vid.me today. Now my only interaction with Youtube will be when I drink from my giant goblet of schadenfreude in its honor.
  • seinfan reply Political lethargy for decades has created a power vacuum that sucked in the most toxic parasites. This is the first symptoms of the cancer. Plenty more to come.
  • smidge_tv reply Youtube is totally disgusting
  • Capt_Nemo reply I think I figured it. Could it be that they hate the mirrored glasses?
  • [ – ] respawn reply This has nothing to do with left or right. It's about IQ. They target the ones smart enough to see thru the propaganda and call it out. Anyone stating the public secrets explicitly, like zika doesn't cause microcephaly, Assad isn't a dictator, nukes were used in Yemen in 2015.. all those secrets are being banished to a small echochamber of blacklisted users the masses are being protected from.
  • Kid3t3rnity reply Ye gods, your video sucked ass. YouTube really is going down the crapper. Move your business here.
  • macrox6 reply Don't worry too much.They're just cutting off their profits and giving them to some other sites... Heh, would be competition yeah?
  • [ – ] Jim_The_Ape reply That sucks. YouTube really needs to get their shit together and stop with this thought policing nonsense. All it does is fuck over content creators and piss off their user base.
    • Razzoriel parent reply "Hey, guy stuck in the mud all the way to its shoulders. Maybe you shouldn't step in quicksand."
  • Azazer reply You should move this to the tech category here on Vid.me so it gets to trending. I don't think vids from Politics and News make it on there anymore.
  • JadeJicama reply Well, that's fucking bullshit.
  • PureCrimson reply Share the video. We will win this war.
  • Revengex reply Antitrust. Call your rep and push for Google investigation.
  • 1HeadlinesWithAVoice reply Followed you here from YT. Set-up a Vid.me a few days ago. Only a matter of time before YT shuts my shit down. I narrate political news. Never monetized my vids, so I might not be on their radar yet. Wish you'd do a crap-load of political rants. IMO, they're the best I've seen. Awesome shit. :)
  • DomPachino reply I can get on front page of YT & see my subscriptions but i can watch any videos. MANTAINANCE? i'll try later. I once had my G+ suspended then terminated for these two videos that had nothing offensive. 1st is "$100 bill nuke"... by thejohnkleck. The 2nd was something like "parting the Van Allen belt with HAARP & Hivolt" by jim lee. These are YT videos. No nudity, violence, govt. protest, swearing,... nothing. They are still up! but i was not allowed to share to G+! i 1st noticed they werent on my feed on G+ after sharing. So i tried & tried & finally got a pop up saying it went against their policies blah blah. Its YT video! google are thieves too. Many claim view counts are off. People use programs to double monitor counts. Weird stuff at google. They for awhile blacklisted NATURALNEWS from google search engine! weird stuff. Messing with people contract & money.
  • TheAnimeCW reply I have made the migration to Vidme as well. I think people will be able to move here slowly as YouTube keeps forcing their restrictions upon creators. It's been inevitable for years.
  • doombybbr reply I think your face may not be advertiser friendly
  • MikeTheMugger reply You can thank the ADL and the Institute for Strategic Dialogue for the latest guideline changes to YouTube. Google has effectively become the Ministry of Truth.
  • lazarhead reply Welcome to the free side.
  • NikoLinni reply Jesus, Mary and Joeseph, makes me thankful I focused mainly on just gaming and keeping my characters non-political within the videos. Sad to see a company doing something like this but then again, when you get so big that it becomes a question of who's gonna stop you....well, shouldn't really be much of a surprise, I guess.
  • FuerchtegottGellert reply http://archive.is/45ZoY
  • SirThomas reply You have a hard time not using profanity for 5 minutes.
  • AaronAardvark reply Could be something else entirely but its tough to argue that it isn't after seeing this video. Unfortunately Google/Alphabet is a billion dollar tech empire so it'd require everyone on at least YouTube to bail the fuck out in order to leave a scratch on their revenue, not to mention they already make loadsamoney across the internet by selling analytical data to advertisers. Perhaps setting up a Hatreon account and stopping YT uploads would be a good start to fighting this? (as an aside, #StallmanWasRight)
  • hasher411 reply Fuck that shit! Mother F'ers
  • [ – ] Whittakers reply Fuck them
  • rorikdafuzzy reply not really suprising. i mean in on a tsa list somewhere, it's really easy to get on these lists. so we're just going to have to find ways around them like the internet always does.
  • CryptoAndMarkets reply Complete blasphemy. Good on you for exposing it
  • DueyBear reply Seeing average view counts of vid.me videos going up recently, I think people, and a lot of people, are making the switch.
  • [ – ] The_New_One reply Just a challenge for you, Razorfist; what about you try it again with a video with no swear words in it? Just to be absolutely sure!!
    • [ – ] Razzoriel parent reply Fuck no, let him speak however the fuck he wants. If you don't like swear words, maybe you should grow a tougher skin.
      • The_New_One parent reply Hey little bitch, I'm asking he does the test again to make SURE he's being censored, I don't have a problem with swearing; do you need a few cents to pay for your brain expansion?
  • vvizbeard reply "Shroud of the Avatar was a pretty decent game. I actually gave it a whirl during" . . . tell us more!
  • Kos2sok reply Retweeted youtube is screwing people over.
  • EquallyWorthless reply Probably not a lot of people have read this book, but the YouTube algorithm is starting to sound like ELOPe from Avogadro Corp. In the book, ELOPe was meant to be a communication-enhancer for the e-mail service of Avo Corp., basically a fictionalized version of Google. It was given the ability to alter people's e-mails silently and the objective to improve the success of the ELOPe project. The way Razor described the algorithm here is reminiscent of how ELOPe identified social patterns by observing who people e-mailed and the tone of the responses. When ELOPe identified a person as a threat, it used this knowledge to convince them to take a vacation, fire them, trap them in a snowstorm for a week, and even got one guy killed. The whole thing where it profiles you based on your interactions with other people is fucking scary. The YouTube blacklist algorithm probably isn't going to get anyone killed, but I'd rather not have real life events altered by a bot.
  • unforgivenplays reply Your last two videos didn't pop up in my sub feed for a while, but were on my home feed.
  • Leitis reply Great work. Spread the word
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